Hi,

I don't own a Super Crew yet. I join f150online to find out everything about F-150 before I buy. It's been great reading all about your experiences and I am very impressed with the knowledge you guys bring to this forum.

But again, I'm still looking left and right between the Tundra and the F-150 Super Crew. I like the new Tundra 2004 Double Cab but then it's too pricey. I'm looking to spend about $16,000 for a truck, a pre-owned one.

Help me make my decision. Thanks!

 

Well, your decision seems farily easy. There are no Toyota Double cabs in your price range as it hasn't been out very long. If you are concerned with any potential issues with a used Supercrew, say of about 2001 vintage in that price range, don't be. There are no major issues with them. Do you research and have a mechanic check out any potential purchases for general abuse and wear items.

 

If I were looking for a new truck right now, I would be looking long and hard at the Toyota or Nissan. And even though most consider it ugly, the Avalanche (without the body armor) would be a consideration.

Guess I am a little bitter right now because my 2001 SCrew has been in the shop for a week for a broken lumbar, failed coil, and had to get the front end components replaced. Got it back and drove it for 2 days and the transmission has to be replaced. Most of this covered under my extended warranty, but if all of this is happening before 100K miles, I am assuming I will be doing this again in under another 100K, except out of my wallet!!

 

Thanks for replying. That's one sweet truck you have.

I understand that all cars/trucks have problems with them. Not only Fords or Chevys or Dodge, but Tundra do have serious problems themselves also. Their braking failures and crack cylinder heads are 2 of the major ones.

I hope everyone can tell me about their Super Crew problems as it will definitely help me make a decision. But, please, be honest. If your truck is giving your problems, there is nothing to hide.

Well, for one, it's a Toyota, and for the SuperCrew, it just look too darn sweet.

I can't make up my mind...

 

Have you gone out and driven both yet? That may help you in your decision.

Some here may bad mouth the Toyota, I won't. You pay extra, taxes and tariffs do that. But resale on Toyota's is usually fairly good. I owned two Toyota trucks. Drove them for four years each, sold for good money each time.

Now, I like the added comfort of the F150. I'm tall and the F150 provides more room. My son is catching up to me, never would fit in the Toyota. How will either truck fit you? What are your plans with it, towing, hauling, work truck or just horsing around? Family?

I was happy with my Toys, but moreso with my Fords...

 

I looked around for a truck since May of 03. I had my heart set on a Dakota Quad Cab, but the dealer sold it on me. We looked serious at the Tundra and found that although Toyota has a great reputation,
1 they don't negotiate in Canada, I call it price fixing.
2 the third door could only be accessed by opening the front doors and the room in side was only fair in my opinion.
3 I found that I couldn't put my sled in the back box d/t the overall width between the wheelwells.
4 Although it has great power for a small V8, towing a larger load, ie a double horse trailer, the truck was under matched in the braking dept.
All things considered the full size truck is a much better option in my mind. This is the first Ford I have ever owned and so far we love it. I have much more ground clearance then the GM quad cabs and better HP/Torque then the Rams/GMs at a lower RPM.

Goodluck with your choice

 

I was in your position 2 years ago except I was buying new. Ended up the Supercrew due to it's extra room. Liked the other option alot but so did they and the roominess was not there.

The only problem I have had is a blown A/C line where the splash shield inside the fender rubbed it into.

My only other recommendation is to keep an eye on the tires and rotate them religously...and check the tire pressure. I just replaced a set because they were cupping badly (40,000 miles). They have been cupped for at least 10,000. Partly my fault possibly weak shocks.

The most important thing is to buy what you like and are comfortable with. As far as the quality goes they are all about the same, industry is not going to let one get too far ahead or behind - they just wouldn't survive.

Good luck!! let us know what happens.

 

>>>>I read some mag. reviews about the new Tundra Double Cab (crewcab) and it seemed the Tundra's V8 (the only one currently offered for it) seemed a bit sluggish with the extra weight with the bigger cab. But they did indicate Toyota was in the process of either putting a bigger motor in the truck or increasing the horsepower of the Tundras V8 in 2004 or 2005 to alleviate this problem. But the reviewers definitely could notice a difference in the engine's power when driving the bigger Double Cab.

>>>>As far as problems with the SCrew. The only real problems I've had with mine are the following. The rear tailgate came slightly misaligned/warped and the only way to correct it is to order a new tailgate and have a body shop paint it. I didn't notice it when I first got the truck. It's not really that noticable, you have to look really close at the gaps on the left side and right side of the truck to notice it, that and giving the tailgate a slightly harder push when closing. I'm still debating whether I want to give up the factory finish to a private body shops end result. The factory paint always seems to hold up better in the long run. I've got to get back to Ford soon and let them know my decision. The only other problem is one morning my trucks engine turned over and over not starting. I think maybe it was the passive theft system's/chip in the ignition key. Because it cranked again a few moments later without a problem and hasnt done it again since. I believe I may have taken the key out between starting attempts. In hindsite I belive the chip in the key was not read properly when I inserted it and the theft deterrent refused to let the truck start.

>>>>As far as the Tundra goes. I remember there was someone on here who traded for a Tundra. He kept it a year I think then took it back to a Ford dealer and traded for a Superduty. As I recall he was a bit disallusioned with some quality problems with his Ford so he traded it for the Toy. But stated he didn't fair much better with the Tundra which had it's fair share of problems too. I think most of these trucks are pretty close to each other as far as quality goes. Toy may get a slight nod, but I think if you spoke with some Tundra owners and they were honest with you things aren't perfect with them either. It all comes down to personal preference and what you want out of your truck. I bought a Ford Supercab back in '99 and test drove the Ford, Dodge, Chevy, and the Toyota Tundra. To me the two that came closest to being what I needed in a truck were the Ford and the Chevy. The Toy just wasn't big enough inside. But it was a tight truck and drove nicely appearing to be very well built. The new Double Cab could solve alot of those issues. In closing I traded my SuperCab last year for my 2002 SCrew and I absoloutely love it. I have no regrets with this truck. It's the best truck I've ever owned or driven.

 

dont be fooled by the claimed quality of Toyota and Honda.

You just dont hear about those problems because those buyers have bought into the sales pitch.

The fact is... long term 5 year cost of ownership is the same or lower with the Ford.

Toyotas cost more to buy
they cost more to insure
they cost more to service (much much more) just try making a warranty claim if you dont take the truck to a Toyota dealer who charges a premium for an oil change
the cost more to repair (and yes, things will break)

so maybe they dont break as often, but when they do its like having 2 or 3 or 4 Ford breakdowns as far as cost.