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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 06:17 PM
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Tight Oil Filter

First oil change, oil filter is hard to get to in the first place, tried to put a cap on the end and turn w/ a socket--not happening. Then stuck a pry bar in the side and tried turning it--not happening. Finally pulled off the front Skid Plate where i had a lot more room to access the filter and put a Strap wrench on it ( i weigh 160 lbs ) and it was all i could do to loosen the Damm filter.

I don't know if a person or machine installs the filter, but whomever did it thought 500 ft/lbs was the setpoint.

Oh well, enough bitching!!!!

Put Motorcraft 5w-20 prem. syn and Motorcraft 820 filter


Later Guys
 
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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 08:32 PM
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I use a strap wrench to get mine off. The factory one was on there pretty tight for me too.

I think it helps if you turn the wheels all of the way to the left.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 02:02 AM
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I cant find 5w20 syn. down here....or even a blend!

Oh well enough of my bitching...and your a light weight!
 
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 09:41 AM
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Dosen't make much sense that the factory filter would be on so tight. Maybe they have to for shipping purposes????

One thing I have learned when changing the oil filter is that it is a pain to get to on the 4x4 and to make sure and get the oil filters with the more defined ridges on the end. This way you can use the end cap and it won't slip. Also don't forget to put some oil on the gasket before you put it on.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 09:48 AM
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if you were trying to take the filter off a cold engine, it can be VERY tight. I always drive mine a couple of miles to put a little heat in the block; it comes off easy then.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 11:22 AM
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You should always change the oil with a warm engine. At least that's what I was taught when I was a kid. It mixes up the oil and any contaminates in the pan so that they drain out when you pull the plug. Like I say, that's what I was always taught.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 11:40 AM
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Hey guys, if you find the stock oil filter location to be a major pain in doing an oil change (like I did!), the solution is only a couple bucks and a Saturday away. This is how I solved the problem on my truck.



I don't even have to use a wrench to get my filter off and on, and, I can pre-load a new filter prior to installation due to the way the filter is now mounted (i.e. perpendicular to the ground). Really simple, and no more turning of wheels and busted nuckles tryin' to get to the stock filter.

Just a suggestion......

-Mike-
 
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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 10:21 AM
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BigDeal I though about doing that too but the idea of more parts to break or go wrong with the oil system scared me.

As far as having a warm engine when you change the oil is importiant as it makes the oil thinner so you can get more out and will also make the oil filter easier to get off etc. Another check that I do is when the engine is turned over after an oil change you can feel it running though the oil filter (if you don't then thats a bad thing)
 
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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by dcovell
BigDeal I though about doing that too but the idea of more parts to break or go wrong with the oil system scared me.
If the AN fittings are assembled correctly, you won't have any issues with a setup like this. And it's not hard to learn how to build them right. Remember, this is the same type of plumbing used on pretty much all NHRA sanctioned cars, and they stress it a whole lot harder than you or I ever will. Once you do a system like mine you'll kick yourself for not having installed one earlier.

Take care.

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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 09:13 PM
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Big Deal..give your parts list or at least the site from your previous thread on the subject
 
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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 09:27 PM
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Nice looking setup BigDeal. How did you get it to angle away from the power steering gear box?
 
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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 11:06 PM
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I always change my oil at normal operating Temp., my dad did it that way and i've been doing it like that for 25 years, also oil the new o-ring--thats a must do

Hazard, Wally World has the Motorcraft Blend Syn. for $1.77

What about that parts list ---Big Deal??????????????


Later,,,Mark
 
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Old Jun 20, 2003 | 12:12 AM
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Nice looking setup BigDeal. How did you get it to angle away from the power steering gear box?
Thanks for the compliment! To answer your question about the angle of the oil lines, I custom fabbed a mounting bracket out of 1/8" steel, and put approximately a 35 degree bend in it. This angle allows the use of straight connectors into the filter mount base, as well as a leisurely curve around the steering box for the two oil lines. Next time I do an oil change, I'm gonna fab up another bracket similar to the one that's on the truck now, but with a longer plate where it mounts to the framerail. I want to get four bolts, instead of two, in the next one (it's all about overkill!).

Anyway, here's a couple pics of the bracket I made before and after installation.

-Mike-





 
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Old Jun 20, 2003 | 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by rajuncajun37
What about that parts list ---Big Deal??????????????
Later,,,Mark
Ok.... Here's a direct copy of an email I sent to a fellow member of this board that wanted this same information. All the items came from Summit Racing's catalog and are Earl's fittings/hose. (Obviously, you can shop around and substitute similar fittings and hose from Aeroquip, Jeg's, or Russell.)

4 / EAR-981610 / Earls AN10 to 1/2" Pipe thread adapters
2 / EAR-309110 / Earls AN10 / 90 degree Bent Tube fittings
2 / EAR-300110 / Earls AN10 Hose Ends
6 / EAR-306010 / Feet of Earls Auto Flex AN10 hose
1 / Roll Teflon Tape
1 / TRD-1045 / TD Performance Remote Filter Mount (horizontal inlet/outlet)
1 / TD Performance Diverter (Call Summit for your specific application. 4.6L and 5.4L use different diverters.)
1 / Custom fabricated frame rail mount for the filter (You're on your own with that one.)

You'll also need some nuts and bolts to mount the setup, but what you need is dependant upon where you mount the remote filter base. You can get this stuff from your local Ace hardware.

That's everything!

-Mike-
 
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Old Jun 20, 2003 | 12:35 AM
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One last post and I'm outa here for the night. For you guys that are interested in a setup like this, I spoke with Mike Troyer (some of you may already know him) with Troyer Perfromance, about adding a setup like mine to his catalog. I sent him a whole bunch of pics and details and he's looking them over right now. If you think a prefabbed kit like mine would be a good idea, you might want to send him an email (Sales@TroyerPerformance.com) and express your interest. If enough folks send him email, it might just motivate him to do a kit. I know if I had it to do again, and I could buy a kit with the lines already cut to length, and fittings installed, I'd definitely go that route. Shoot, I'd bet you could install a pre-fabbed kit like that in under 30 minutes!!!

-Mike-
 
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