Fore Fuel Hat
 

I plan on buying a Fore Fuel Hat this week but can only buy the hat not the whole Troyer kit. I've been emailing troyer trying to find out more like if anything else comes with the hat. Any suggestions? Would I be able to pick up the the wiring, breakers, relays etc. from Fore if troyer cant sell these parts to me? Let me know what you guys think

Gonna need two 'Ford GT Improved' fuel pumps from Fore.

Your gonna need another FPDM to run the extra pump.

Google search F150 Saleen Fore fuel hat or something like that. Should find a post with a wiring diagram.

One thing is for sure 'Its a beautiful piece'

Where are you getting the hat from?

I am getting the hat through Troyer "hopefully". Anita and I have been emailing each other. I wanted to buy the kit but they only have hats left so I want to buy the hat because that seems like the only option other than buying a whole new fuel system. Also in another thread it was mentioned that aeromotive came out with a new hat for our trucks but when I emailed them they said the new Fuel hat they came out with does not fit our trucks.

Ross; Do you have the part numbers for the pumps you bought? I just read your build thread yesterday awesome work. Cant wait to go built also. Aiming for this upcoming summer

I sure hope you can get the hat! That's a big problem solved.

How were you able to reach Troyer? I tried both numbers (7123 + 7126) and they both seem to be disconnected, so they either didn't pay for their phone bills or are out of business?

http://www.troyerperformance.com/Scripts/contactUs.asp

I emailed them about the Fuel hat. Apparently there moving shop locations and are very busy with that. I've been emailing Anita Troyer. I just went to the website and sent her an email about the hat to see if they had any left. If you want me to have her contact you about the hat instead of going through the website PM me or post your email address here. I'll keep everyone on the thread posted with what happens

yes I want one fore fuel hat, how much is it?
2006 F150 5.4 3V

I haven't found that out yet but I should know by the next email and once I find out I'll PM you. What do you guys suggest for wiring. I found this kit, Ill obviously have to order 2 one for each pump but what do you guys think? If you know of any other wiring kits it would be much appreciated to let me know. Thanks,

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/aei-16301/overview/

Don't expect anything less than 600 greenbacks for that hat.

FORE PUMP Part # F10000302

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Nobody ever said that 'Truck-Rodding' was cheap.

Buying the hat & parts individually worked out cheaper than the kit for me.

Yea 'Truck-Rodding' isnt cheap at all lol I hate when my friends ask...why do you waste so much money on your truck and I'm over here :whistle: But at the end of the day its so worth the cost

I called Justin at fore, he told me they will release an external fuel pump that will reuse the existing fuel pump

the kit will also reuse the existing fuel lines, should be ready mid april

aeromotive will not work because our tanks are plastic and it will require drilling for the aeromotive pump

long story short, if you don't want to use a BAP and need more fuel then you will need the fore hat kit $1500 + 8 hours labour

Reuse what? The stock pump? and if thats the only other option around I guess I'll have to order this. Kind of funny you brought this up because my fuel pump just took a crap the other day but it just gave me an excuse to starting taking the motor out and get it built. Should be ordering the whipple kit within the next 2 weeks. Ill probably post a build thread once the motor and everything is out. Pics coming soon

I don't know if it's doable to swap a 5.0 instead of the 5.4, if you could do this built you'd get a lot more aftermarket parts and more power.

I didn't research this when I got my 5.4 built, maybe I should have

5.0 would be a nightmare. Tuning and wiring would be outrageous. The end result would be 1000 hours getting it all just to work together. Rafa had a hell of a time with a 5.4 dohc in his truck. I dunno if it ever ran right either.

It would be bada** to have a 5.0 absolutely love those trucks my dad bought the Ecoboost and that truck stock has a lil pep to its step. Anyways I called JDM apparently they make a custom fuel hat for our trucks but its custom fabricated from a mustang fuel hat to fit for our trucks. After they had told me they used this hat on a similar 5.4 that was built and blown and making over 600whp with room to grow on the fuel setup I decided to pull the trigger on it. If anyone wants more info PM Jdm is trying to keep it "secret" because of the time it takes for them to make it but I dont want to leave anyone in the dark who are trying to make more power but are starving for fuel...

You need to contact RobertP. He has found a fuel hat assembly with a 400lph pump and an option for twin pumps. I believe it's built by Fore. He just installed the 400lph setup on his truck last night.

Wish I would have known about this earlier but either way I have faith in JDM they make top of the line quality stuff. Very interested to hear about RobertP's setup and results though. :banana: Hopefully others will see this thread and be helped with fuel setups when wanting to push more boost. The nice thing about JDM's setup is its all plug n play pretty much like replacing a stock fuel pump no extra FPDM which is nice

So it's a single pump then?

From what they told me on the phone which was about a month ago (cant recall too much of the conversation) but I think the person I was talking was saying they use the mustang fuel hat setup and modify it for our trucks so you have to give them your VIN so they can see what your wheelbase is and etc so they know exactly which gas tank you have so they can make it for the right fitment. I think he said it uses 2 pumps but runs off one FPDM they just have to tune it in. But again I'm not 100% but next time I talk to them or when I receive it in the mail I will let you know

I was speaking with Nick@JDM about two weeks ago about an alternative to getting more fuel and he said they were trying to develop a fuel system (hat/pump, etc) for the F150 but he just said "trying". I told him I would even ship my truck out there for install ha. Maybe you are getting a prototype...

Twin: I looked over my email about the fuel system and Nick said its a dual pump system

MDK: Well from what he told me was they used this fuel setup on a built 5.4 like ours and said it made 630whp and the fuel setup had room to grow

Rafa's motor was / is a 3v. JDM race heads on it. Over size Manley valves and a big port job. Not bad for $2.5k.

Honestly I think he ran a gt500 motor. Now I'm in need a fuel pump assembly.

Yeah it was / is an 'Aluminator GT500' bottom end with 3v heads. I spoke to JDM about it lots. I based my blower set up on the one fitted to his truck.

Are you looking for a Fore Hat?

I bought a 400lph setup like Robert good up to 650rwhp (supposedly). You selling a fore setup?

Sounds like a good set up.

No I ain't selling the Fore Hat. Heck, it's so pretty it would make a nice ornament.

Yea I saw a picture of your fore fuel hat in your build thread. That thing is mighty purrrty lol

I have also spoken with Jim Jr, at JDM about this setup. He said that it was a dual pump setup and thath you have to convert the fuel system to a return style system. My builder told me the same thing.

What setup are you referring too? The Fore Fuel sytem myself and Ross have does not require any such thing. I personally run dual 255lph pumps and have the option for third. It is a returnless system with twin FPDM's.

The system RobertP and Irons1n are using is a new setup consisting of a single 400lph pump and maintains the returnless setup. Super inexpensive at around $225.00. It'll support 550-600rwhp.

Do you know what pump their using? Kind of upset been waiting on the fuel hat from JDM since January so going to cancel my order and probably get the 400lph pump. Pretty mad about that

http://lookup.fuel-pumps.net

I purchased the TU272HP which comes with a F90000264 fuel pump. Despite the site saying 255lph if you call Ti Automotive (Walbro parent company) they will confirm it's 400lph. Stock is 300 to 310 estimated as I don't believe it's been confirmed. This is roughly 25% more pump. Stock pump maxes about 500rwhp. 400lph should max around 625rwhp.

When I ordered from this site they did not send a tracking number as it comes straight from Walbro but I had zero issues with them. Zero modifications needed to make it fit or work.

Nice! Thanks for the info. Definitely will be ordering this pump after I get my money back

Which pump? The FORE specific?

FORE

No I was asking IR0NS1N about the pump him and RobertP are running but thanks for the info

Twin, I'm guessing that they(JDM & my builder) were saying to go to return style to leave room for growth. Do the duel pumps run simultaneously or is the second pump turned on when it is needed?

This is great information, thanks. I'm gonna look into getting one of these.

The 2 pumps run simultaneously. And if I added a third a it would as well. From what I have read as of recent, return and returnless systems are capable of the same power levels depending on how they are set up. Each tuner has there preference.
For what it's worth the Mustang crowds are pushing 1000hp out of triple pumps on the returnless system.

I have a 1999 lightning, I am running twin Walbro 340LPH pumps on a return type system. One pump is full time and the other is boost referenced and comes on at 2PSI. I ran a -10 main fuel line and used the stock return as it was 3/8" to begin with.

I drilled the stock hat and have two -6 bulkhead fittings (one to each pump). Both -6 lines go to a "Y" block where the -10 starts.

The -10 goes to the rear of the motor and again splits into two -6 lines (one to each fuel rail) . I have the big Aeromotive fuel rails. At the front I have a crossover -6 line into a regulator mounted to the end of the right rail. A -6 return line goes from the regulator back to the factory return pipe at the rear of the motor.

A twin pump bracket could be made and added to your stock hat easily, and save some big $.

Miz

the new fuel hat is made by ti automotive and it should be coming out shortly i was talking to nick at jdm about it last week.have any of you considered going to e85?