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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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No turning back now

The PCM is enroute to Roush. Tomorrow the install begins. Wish me luck.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 10:29 PM
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Good luck! You will love it........
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 12:00 AM
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Roush makes you send in the PCM? They dont do send you a hand held tuner? I didnt know that. Whats turn around time?
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 07:08 AM
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Yea roush sends a prepaid overnight box for the pcm, your looking at about 2-3 days turn around time, depending on your proximity to detroit.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 08:25 AM
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You are going to use the roush tune?

I'm sorry.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by FATHERFORD
You are going to use the roush tune?

I'm sorry.
Since it is included with the cost, maybe it is just to get him to a tuner without blowing the thing up on the way.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 09:23 AM
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Since it is included with the cost, maybe it is just to get him to a tuner without blowing the thing up on the way.
I did the same thing with the Ford/Whipple tune. I just used it to get started safely and make it to the dyno.

Lee
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 10:11 AM
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Roush time is fine, well atleast until you get a real tune and realize just how bad that tune is. Same with whipple and all other generic tunes.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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Yes, I'm going to use the Roush tune as a baseline. Troyer is going to be doing the custom tunes. I sent him my Xcal2 which he is supposed to be setting up to read the Roush calibration when my PCM returns. According to Fed Ex's tracking, it's been delivered. I sure wish it was cooler today.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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so any progress?
 
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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 07:49 AM
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The install is taking longer than I expected. Since I'm changing out the radiator with the Ford Racing unit, I spent most of Saturday trying to find a tool to pop the cooler lines out of the transmission, with no luck. Rather than have that shut the project down, I made a tool out of a 3/8 line connector tool for a GM. I've got a pic of the two radiator's side by side, and it's a big difference. The core of the stocker is maybe 1", the Ford Racing is 2.5" The stocker has more cooling rows, so that may be where the add'l cooling comes into play. While the Ford Racing unit is listed for 04-06, it bolted right in my 2008 with no problem. In hindsight, removing the radiator allows you to stand in the engine bay which is a benefit in this install. Getting in and out of there in a leveled 4x4 is another issue.

I'm also installing Troyer's e-fans. I ran out of weekend and have been working on it in the evenings all this week. I should be finished wiring up the fans tonight, which is the last thing I need to do to get it going. I don't like the prospect of mounting the fan controllers on the washer tank, so it's taking more time to mount it on the driver's side inner fender. I'll have to fab up a bracket for the I/C degass tank this weekend, but I'll just zip tie it to the radiator support tonight.

I thought I'd be driving it by now, but with the heat and not being as flexible as I was 30 years ago, it's just taking time. The only snags I've run into with the kit are some wire routing issues that had to be redone because the instructions didn't do a good job of explaining. I noted the problems once I started connecting electrical components on the engine. Other than that, it's a well thought out kit.

Now to wait 2 months for custom tunes. I'm using the +2 overdrive pulley and had the supercharger ported prior to the install. I'm just going to have to take it easy until I have the tunes. I might install the headers this weekend, but I think I need a break.
 

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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 11:17 PM
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It's ALIVE!

Finished hooking up the wiring for the fans and it fired right off. Got the fans set and was too tired to go for drive. I can wait until tomorrow.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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If you want Roush's powertrain warranty, you got to stick with their tune. Also, when you get it back, they lock and code the tune into the PCM, so have your tuner prepared to decode it, which can add some time.

I have run the Roush tune for warranty reasons. I know there is another 70hp waiting for me with another tune, but when Roush bought me a brand spanking new motor and had it installed in my truck for free, I decided the warranty was a good thing

Besides, the truck is running high 12's on the Roush tune, which is plenty fast for now.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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Because I did the install myself and am not a Ford certified technician or an ASE certified mechanic, I don't qualify for the warranty anyway. I'm also free to use headers and other components that would otherwise void the warranty. I'm really not hard on this stuff, but if I break something, I'll use better parts for replacements.

I've already got the PCM decoded. Apparently it's not that difficult for SCT to crack. But thanks for the heads up.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 08:17 PM
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Roush now offers tuners kits for the Mustang. These are supercharger kits sold through authorized Roush installers who custom tune the vehicle for you, and the Roush warranty remains:

http://store.roushperformance.com/detail.aspx?ID=1131

Hopefully they'll consider this option for the F150...

About the PCM... there's really nothing to crack. Roush uses a standard PCM image with their values overlayed on it. Just a matter of getting the image from you or the tuner and dumping it into a base file. Makes it nice and easy.
 

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