ive seen non intercooled roush on ebay for 2500....wondering if there is a huge difference between it and the intercooled....obviously the intercooled one is better as cooler is usually better... im wondering for the difference in the price between the two should i even consider the non intercooled one???

 

I wouldnt even think about installing a blower without a intercooler. Heat is the biggest enemy to our motors. I have a intercoolered system and still see over 130 IAT2 temps.

Wayne

 

Yeah whatever I just said, forget it... I was told by a friend you can't just add an intercooler to this type of setup. OH well.

 

Why not??? You can always install an air/air or water/air intercooler separately.

The intercooler on the Eaton or Roots design (Roush/Saleen/Ford Racing) uses a dual-cooler (or radiator/cooler) design, using a separate radiator mounted into the airstream in front of the engine's radiator, with coolant hoses running back to the intercooler which mounts underneath the blower in the outlet airstream in the intake. The discharged air flows through the intercooler and lowers temps, while the coolant (now heated) flows to the radiator in the front of the truck and radiates the heat off, and then continues back, etc...

An inline intercooler (look at a turbo'd car with their large intercoolers in the front fascia) can be added prior to ANY intake/blower design, which would cool the intake air before being compressed...so instead of cooling after the compressor it's being cooled before. Some say one works better than the other, but both are better than not intercooling at all.

Another dual-cooler design that uses an intercooler setup like the Roots (with the remote radiator and post-discharged air cooler) is some found on the centrifugal compressors, such as Vortech or Powerdyne, etc.

Fact is, you can always add an inline intercooler onto the intake tubing if your design doesn't have a dual-cooler setup already, and it's always better to intercool when possible.

 

if the supercharger does have the inlets in the intake manifold at the bottom for the fluid to run through, i don't see a problem with this not working.. HOW EVER DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS I AM NOT 100% SURE!!!

 

wouldnt the intercooloer kit include that i think thats why the thing is like 2 grand

 

I am running the non-intercooled on my '04 4x4 Supercrew and it is more than adequate for what I use it for.
I have owned an '01 Lightning and an '03 Cobra, both modded and both were track vehicles. My SCrew as a daily driver and since I do not plan on doing much towing with it now that the Cobra has been sold, the non-intercooeled SC gives me everything I need.
I am running a 2# lower with MT's custom tuning along with a true dual Lightning style exhaust, 35's on 9" wheels, a hard cover, and the truck will still run high 14's at the track. Not that I plan on running it, but being an old time drag racer I had to see what it would run.
By the way, it will be for sale in the classifieds here sometime tomorrow as I have decided to move on to something else. Perhaps a Jeep to play with now that I am retired....

 

A jeep!?! tisk tisk Marc,


armt-dawg: just get the non I/C kit you can save up your coin and get the I/c kit I'm sure in a year or 2 the price will drop....I just wanted to make over 400 and the I/c kit was good for me I can go to the track and run with just about any gas truck there. it all about what you want to do

 

dont mean to hijack, but did you have to upgrade the injectors with the 2 lb. pulley or are still on stockers?


oh and i run the non intercooled and its just fine. sure intercooled is better but you dont HAVE to have one. roush claims 33 more hp with the i/c which is a decent chunk, but its not like its gonna be twice as fast or anything. the i/c setup is also better if you are looking to mod further, but for $2,500 the non i/c kit gives you alot of bang for the buck.

 

I dont know I think the I/C will make the truck way faster I can go to the track and run in the 13's all day I dont think a non I/C kit could do that

 

hey matt 13's barley lol just joking i seen it last friday,

 

and I got a witness ....I did run faster than that red 05 mustang with headers exhaust and CAI

 

yeah but you are comparing your 410 hp to the maybe 320-330 of a stock non i/c roush truck. 80-90 rwhp is a good little chunk...

 

it would come out to be a lot more when you start modding it you can get more out of it,

 

True, I'm going to a dyno in the am and see what I put down in less than 100 degree heat