supercharger for towing

Old Sep 10, 2006 | 04:20 AM
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supercharger for towing

whats up guys? well i am over here in Iraq doing my third tour, after i get back i am going to get rid of my flat bed trailer and get a toy hauler to move around my quads and dirtbikes. well here is the real question, what is the best supercharger on the market for towing? i will be towing about 6000-7000 pounds i have towed this weight before and the truck did fine on flat ground but it would drop down to 55mph or less going up steep grades, i need some more power for towing, i am not coming back to the states till march or so i just wanted some feedback on what you guys think would work best for my aplication, i want to spend no more than $5000 for the full kit and the tuneing required for it to work well with my current mods. thanks in advance for the info guys.

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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 05:02 AM
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Best would be a turbocharger..they are load sensitive. As for anything else it's a matter of personal choice. General consensus will steer you towards a roots or twinscrew supercharger as they make more power towards the lower end of the rpm range....but it is also well proven that the centrifugal superchargers make plenty of towing power as well. You can't go wrong with any setup but if I had the money and the chance to do it again I'd be going with a turbo.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 09:07 AM
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does anybody make a bolt on turbo kit that wouldnt smoke a 5.4 with stock internals? i only have 40,000 miles on on mine and i want to buy a bolt on kit that i will get many more trouble free miles without having to mod any more, that is why is was leaning more for a supercharger than a turbo just because i know there are alot more bolt on kits that have alot of miles on them, i am looking for something dependible, let me know what you guys think and what kits would be best for my aplication under $5000, thanks
 
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by bigtruck311
does anybody make a bolt on turbo kit that wouldnt smoke a 5.4 with stock internals? i only have 40,000 miles on on mine and i want to buy a bolt on kit that i will get many more trouble free miles without having to mod any more, that is why is was leaning more for a supercharger than a turbo just because i know there are alot more bolt on kits that have alot of miles on them, i am looking for something dependible, let me know what you guys think and what kits would be best for my aplication under $5000, thanks
This!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-...spagenameZWDVW
And this kit.http://www.madenterprise.com/scparts.htm

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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bigtruck311
does anybody make a bolt on turbo kit that wouldnt smoke a 5.4 with stock internals? i only have 40,000 miles on on mine and i want to buy a bolt on kit that i will get many more trouble free miles without having to mod any more, that is why is was leaning more for a supercharger than a turbo just because i know there are alot more bolt on kits that have alot of miles on them, i am looking for something dependible, let me know what you guys think and what kits would be best for my aplication under $5000, thanks
As far as I know there's not a turbo kit for our trucks sitting on a shelf waiting to be installed. I believe most turbos for our trucks are custom made. As for S/C's for towing, I'll give you my perspective and reason why I made my choice. I tow a 26'' cabin cruiser that weighs close to 9000#. I have an 01 SCAB 4x4, w/5.4 engine. I researched all the options and found that roots & twin screw S/C's do put out more low end torque and that is good for towing. My only fear was that since I'm towing so much, that might over stress my stock engine and tranny. I've never had a problem getting that much weight moving from a stop so I looked into the centrifugal blowers. I decided on the Procharger P1- SC for a few reasons. Complete kit ready to bolt on(short of the tune). Did it myself in my garage in a day and a half (took my time). 3-core air-to-air intercooler, and Procharger is considered to be the best of the cents on the market, some may argue that. I'm not over stressing any part of my drive train and I have alot more power. Right now I'm seeing 293rwhp and 330 rwtq. That will soon get better when I install my 12# boost pulley and fuel pump. I'm hoping to get 340 at the wheels. Check out my gallerie, you'll see my boat and the blower. Good luck.

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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 08:26 AM
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 08:59 AM
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My vote is for the Lightning swap. I just did another one and spent a little over 3K. So it would be under your budget and have plenty of torque to pull what you need. A cent would work to but you' spend more money or have to buy used. But you asked for opinions so mine is the L swap and spend the extra money on a big brake kit. I can pull whatever I want but stopping is another issue.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 09:31 AM
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My vote is for the Lightning swap. I just did another one and spent a little over 3K. So it would be under your budget and have plenty of torque to pull what you need. A cent would work to but you' spend more money or have to buy used. But you asked for opinions so mine is the L swap and spend the extra money on a big brake kit. I can pull whatever I want but stopping is another issue.

what would be the best rout to go with the lightning swap? is there anybody that sells everything i would need to do this conversion? or would i have to buy bits and peices? this really enterests me and if it falls under my budget then i can throw on the dynateck longtubes on at the same time, let me know what would be the best way to do this, i wouldnt be doing it till March when i come back i am just trying to do my research now so when i come back i wont have to wast time, thanks for any info, thanks
 
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 10:24 AM
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what would be the best rout to go with the lightning swap? is there anybody that sells everything i would need to do this conversion? or would i have to buy bits and peices? this really enterests me and if it falls under my budget then i can throw on the dynateck longtubes on at the same time, let me know what would be the best way to do this, i wouldnt be doing it till March when i come back i am just trying to do my research now so when i come back i wont have to wast time, thanks for any info, thanks
As far as I know No one is getting all the stuff together but you could pickup the blower,manifolds,injectors,wiring etc from a ebay auction.. Monkeybiscuit or something. Then get all the other parts from Mike Dunn at madenterprise.com or surf the L boards for takeoff parts and reduce some of the total cost. IMO the dynatech LT (I have them) aren't needed until you really turn up the heat, over 500rwhp. Otherwise they are an expensive investment. I wish I would have spent that money elsewhere.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 02:41 AM
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it sounds like a lightning swap would be the most cost effective swap, is this a pretty easy swap, i assume there is no instruction manual, when it comes alittle closer to me coming home to the states i am going to have to pick the brains of you guys that have done this swap before. thanks for all the help guys i will be back asking more questions in a few months, thanks once again for all the help guys
 
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 09:37 AM
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I don't think it's to bad. requires removing the intake manifold and replacing it with the L manifold/intercooler/blower etc. You are right there is no instruction manual but spend a few minutes on the phone with Mike or I or anyone else who has done the swap and you'll get the idea, that is assuming you are fairly mechanically inclined, which it looks like you are.

Cost affective... I think so but I'm sure you could pick up a few used blowers cheaper. Cents that is or possibly a non intercooled KB.
 
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