I will try to make an adaptation on my Whipple air intake system to add an air scoop like the one in the picture. I'm assuring this thing works not because i read somewhere but because i used to have one installed on my Corvette C-5, take a min. and read this (http://vararam.com/b2.html) and it really gave me some RWHP. JLP does this kind of adaptation on some of his trucks, Johnny told me personally that this simple scoop of plastic can improve air flow a lot and makes a good difference on the dyno and on the track, and Johnny knows his stuff.
The way the Whipple air intake is mounted on 5.4 3valve engines does not help the S/C in nothing. The end of the air intake connects to the left fender, i think the idea is to suck the air from a place not close to the engine area because of the heat but at the same time i think the fender area where the air intake is connected is a sealed enclosure or if not an area with very low air circulation. Having an scoop going directly to the front of the truck receiving fresh air and taking it to the air intake system is
Different systems but same principle:
Volant F-150 system Vararam corvette system

 

Picture of the Whipple air intake system ending on the internal side of the fender, no air circulation in there.

 

Hey Rafa, just an FYI from what I have personally seen, or heard...superchargers tend to add a LOT of heat..and I have seen Whipples do exactly that. I'm guessing that's why they went there for air. Have you looked to see if you could modify the FENDER to dump air into the cold air fender more efficiently?

Just a thought

Good luck!

 

yea but the one for the vette is a Giant PITA to install. From what ive heard you have to tear down the whole front end of the engine bay to get it installed.
I know there are some lightning guys on this site that have made home made ducts for their intakes.
-Patrick

 

I don't know where did you get the info stating that takes too long to install the system in a Vette, i have limited mechanic skills and me and one friend installed the system in 1 hour. The Corvette system is big but it's a real bolt on install not requiring any adaptations.

 

Don't take me wrong dude but you wrote something that the whole world knows,
"just an FYI from what I have personally seen, or heard...superchargers tend to add a LOT of heat..and I have seen Whipples do exactly that."

Also that's not only the Whipple that increases heat, that applies for all S/C in the face of earth.

Second part:
" I'm guessing that's why they went there for air."

No you are completely wrong, they didn't go there for air otherwise i would have air and there is no air in there.
They went there to copy the stock air intake which ends there too.

 

Just buy a JLP forced air KIT.
http://www.johnnylightningperf.com/s...products_id=33
I have one on my truck and it helps.But its not a "huge diffference".

Phil

 

I have never done one, but the guy that works on my truck, and all my friends LS1's. He said they are a PITA to install.

He does everything heads, cams, headers, he did a whole motor rebuild on a car for a friend. Hes even working on polishing and porting a set of LS1 heads.
-Patrick

 

The concept is to get the coolest air, in the shortest path with the least amount of bends in the tubing. The side fender has worked for years and will continue to work. Now, I have the Volant with the ram air tube and yes it works......with the fender opening(expanded) not instead of.


And you are 100% wrong in your theory of no air coming from the fender...

 

That kit is for a Lightining, i suppose you had to do some mods to make it fit right ?
Any chance for some pictures ? Thanks.

 

"And you are 100% wrong in your theory of no air coming from the fender..."
I didn't mean 0 air coming from the fender man, but little, very little air. No positive effect at all. The only reason the stock air filter ends there is because it can be attached to it and stay firm and safe in place.

Johnny Lightning told me that and his job is work and test those trucks day after after day, also he has the fastest badass lightning in the country.
Why don't you say now that his statement about the very little air flow coming from the fender is bull**** ? Maybe you know more than him right ?

Is that enough for you "Mr. Know Everything" ??? If not get a vaccuum gauge and stick in there ?

 

I can't get on FTW to get pics.But my truck is just like a Lightning front end and yours is set up the same.Only thing you have to do with that intake is cut a bigger hole in the fender.You have to do that on the L too.I had to rerout the piping on the inside of the frame.My 23 inch wheels would hit it on sharp turns.The funnel goes under the bumper.The massair hooks to the box.Oh and air comes from the fender AND a hole in the bottum of the box were the piping hooks up.

Phil

 

Why is it that when you don't understand a concept, and others who are trying to help you do, you resort to name calling and making other childish statements when they tell you you are wrong?

Did you read where I said that I have the Volant, with ram air tube and I expanded the opening in my fender?

Look at the JLP kit, it goes to the fender and has the ram air tube.

If going to the fender provided no air, how did you make 10psi? If it served no purpose, why did JLP and Volant create a kits that went to the fender and has an attached tube providing 2 air inlets instead of just going straight to the bumper in front? Because air does come in from the fender.

I take tree leaves, and other trash out of my Volant box every week. It was more when I put on my ram air so I put a mesh screen on it.

I'm sorry you feel I am Mr. Know Everything but what I do know I will continue to share with those seeking answers. What I don't know I will seek out those who do have the answers.

 

As i mentioned before but i think when you read you didn't pay attention is that they go to the fender to be firm in place, the fender works as a support to hold the end of the air filter and THE AIR SCOOP will do the job supplying air to the box.
One more time, THE AIR SCOOP PROVIDES 90% of the air to the box.
"How did you make 10psi ?"
The Whipple made 10psi having to suck the air from the fender under a fu@#$% vacuum.

 

I paid attention to why you think the only reason for going to the fender is a firm place to support the air filter.
I was just being kind by not commenting on how stupid and wrong that statement is.
There are many companies who make intakes that don't neet the support of the fender for intakes.

Why dont you try learning the basic concept of how an intake works before you try to correct others trying to help you who do.

Show me anywhere that the only reason to mount an intake to the fender is for support

Show me anywhere that adding an air scoop that mounts under your bumper will provide 90% of the air to the filter box and only 10% from the fender.

I agree.... so if you are on the dyno or track 90% of the time, Your number might be accurate.