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Old Jun 25, 2002 | 08:47 PM
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Unhappy Subs behind the SCrew backseat...

Since I'm about to rebuild my sub box for the fourth time, I thought I'd post this thread. I thought I had finally built my last sub box when I put in the four 8" subs. I was relatively happy with the setup until I had some problems(ended up blowing some subs). The SQ was excellent, but I was still not completely happy with SPL.

So, long story short, I'm now looking for some top quality subs that have SPL and SQ with emphasis on the SQ. I think I want 10" subs (probably 2), obviously with a shallow mounting depth, and relatively high power capabilities (at least 250 watts each) designed for a small sealed enclosure (1.5 cubes combined).

If you have subs behind your SCrew seat, and are truly happy with the setup, post it here. If you tried something and it didn't work out, post here as well.

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Old Jun 26, 2002 | 01:15 AM
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Try looking for a set of Image Dynamics (IDQ10) These are excellent quality with good power handling capabilities. A little on the pricey side (about $200 each), but worth the money for the SQ side. You could also look into the Kicker Comp (old style not the VR's) I have had a set of these for over 6 years, and they actually sounded better in my truck than my 2 Kicker Solo's.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2002 | 01:59 AM
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I agree on the image dynamics also. I use to have one in my old grand am, and it played well.....(hit tight, yet produced volumn) Definately worth the cash. However, if you blow them, be ready to deal with some awful customer service....from what I have heard, they don't have the best reputation in that department.

I believe a standard 10 inch sub for an IDQ can take a box as little as .25....

Just a thought...Good luck!
 
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Old Jul 4, 2002 | 12:59 PM
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Do you guys know anyone who makes a pre-fab box for subs behind the seat or did you have to have it custom built/do-it-yourself? I've got a couple of 10's that have been sitting in my garage since I traded in my SVT on my Supercrew. I specifically don't want them under the seat because I drop the back seat often. I'd like to keep the bin with the jack, tire/iron on the pass. side, but could care less about the drivers side bin. Any suggestions?
 
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Old Jul 6, 2002 | 08:01 PM
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Hi thenry21, You probably can't get enough air space for 2 10" subs and still keep your jack. You could fit 1 10" in there on the drivers side, though.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2002 | 07:22 AM
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try 10W0 jl's. cheap easy to power and clean.
pretty small box requirements also.
or try mb quarts(not many people use them) but if there 1/2 as good as there conponents then they will be wicked.
10W3's are also a good buy(and best at 250 watts but they will take more.)

inhumans if you have about 1500 watts to spare.
oh and 3+cubic feet.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2002 | 08:57 AM
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Rob, I am curious as to your reasoning for limiting your selection of subs to those with shallow mounting depths? Are you looking to use some of the room back there to house amps? If so, that's seriously limiting your choices.

If you are building your own box, it shouldn't be a monumental task for you to put some big tens or twelves in there. That way you will be able to push them with a decent amp and get the SPL you are looking for. I've got two Kicker Solobaric 12L7's behind my seat in a sealed box. The most space you are going to get back there is about 2.0 cubic feet. You could go with one S12L7 in a ported box at 2.0 feet and I guarantee you it will push some serious db's. You can still utilize this entire space with your enclosure and still have a clean, quality looking setup. Not sure if you've seen it or not, but check the link to my gallery in my signature. I'm extremely satisfied with the pleasing aesthetics of my sub install, as well as SPL: 147.2 db. Not bad for a sealed box, one amp setup. I'm not looking to win competitions, just play whatever music I want to as feakin' loud as I can stand it.

The IDQ subs are really nice, but I don't think you are going to get the SPL you're looking for using those without going with something big.

Good luck with your choices............JB
 
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Old Jul 8, 2002 | 12:33 PM
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To clarify. the 2 10's that I have to put in the back of the S-Crew are Solobarics, so space should be ok. I already own them so I'm not interested in investing more money in a different set of speakers. Given that info, any suggestions?
 
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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 03:14 PM
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JBinSD, Unless I've been doing something wrong, I see only getting about a 4" mounting depth using MDF as I have been doing. I don't have the time to do any 'glass work or I would go that route.

As far as airspace goes, again using MDF, I can possibly squeeze out about 1.7 cubes.

Do you get good SQ with your setup?

Thanks for the replies!
 
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Old Jul 10, 2002 | 06:02 AM
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JBinSD, Unless I've been doing something wrong, I see only getting about a 4" mounting depth using MDF as I have been doing. I don't have the time to do any 'glass work or I would go that route.

As far as airspace goes, again using MDF, I can possibly squeeze out about 1.7 cubes.

Do you get good SQ with your setup?

Thanks for the replies!

Well, not at least using 'glass for the back wall is SERIOUSLY limiting you for a sub setup. Because the back wall has ribbing/reinforcement for the bed, 'glass will allow you to contour the back of your box to a mirror image of the wall. This will allow you to seat the deepest part of the magnet right into one of those ribs. This will GREATLY increase your usable mounting depth. Essentially the space behind the MDF will be wasted, unused space. That's eating your availability for larger subs, which equates directly to a loss in SPL and SQ. 'Glass work isn't hard, just time consuming. You can get all the necessary parts/equipment/products at Lowe's or Home Depot. I'm sure there are a ton of articles either in this website or at least on the net for "how to" on working with 'glass. The key will be in making your measurements. You've already done that (multiple times with multiple enclosures). So, now all you have to take the back off your enclosure and replace it with the 'glass piece and connect the pieces. From looking at your previous installs you seem to be fairly skilled in this area. Don't let 'glass intimidate you. It's just time consuming. That's why all the custom shops charge so much money for it. Time=$$$$ for them. You can take all the time you need, and probably end up doing just as nice a job, if not better. Sorry for rambling about this. It just seems that you are shying away from the one item that will help you achieve the desired results: larger SPL combined with excellent SQ.

I'm not trying to insinuate that my system is the best out there. I'm definietly proud of it. It's everything I wanted it to be. Monster SPL and excellent SQ. The Boston Pros really scream, and the Kicker Solobarics pound like a mother. The only knock I have on my system is I feel that it is slightly lacking in "mid bass". I'm working on a few ideas to provide my system with some additional mids in the front door "map pockets". Probably some very punchy 6X8's or 6X9's, or possibly even a pair of additional 6.5's in each door. I still have a whole nother seatback to mount an additional amp into

Ahhhh! A man's work is never really finished. Let me know if you have any additional questions...........JB
 
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Old Jul 10, 2002 | 07:30 AM
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I agree about the 'glass, definately. I just don't have the time right now to have my truck down. Maybe I'll look into it further because I'm probably not going to be happy if I don't.

You have an excellent looking install and you should be proud!


Thanks for the advice.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2002 | 07:15 PM
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Re: Subs behind the SCrew backseat...

Originally posted by Robdude30
If you have subs behind your SCrew seat, and are truly happy with the setup, post it here. If you tried something and it didn't work out, post here as well.

Thanks!!
Ive been out of the audio scene for a few years and leased my last vehicle but now that I have my 2002 screw I wanted a decent sound system. I tossed around the idea of doing it myself, but just didnt have the time and apartment living makes these types of projects a pain so I had it installed.

What I ended up with is 2x 12" kicker L7's in a custom enclosure behind the rear seat running 2ohms and powered by a kicker KX1200.1 (1200watts rms) and all I can say is WOW! Its deep and powerfull yet not overbearing. Due to the extreme cone excursion possible with the L7's I opted for grills which meant I had to make room for them. This was done by taking the plastic backing out of the seat as well as a little foam and using strapping for seat support, much like a lawn chair. Cant really tell any difference sitting in the back seat, but you will get one hell of a massage
 
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Old Jul 10, 2002 | 07:25 PM
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Thumbs up super subs

Sharp ride!

I also have a SCrew here in the great GA state. I installed 2-8inch memphis subs in one of the access doors. I am running a 250 memphis amp with them. Except for the panel rattling they hit very hard. I listen to rock, no rap.

I did not inclose them, but I plan on adding some sound damping mat to help the rattle.

Let me know how it goes.

Randy
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Old Jul 10, 2002 | 08:54 PM
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Parham - welcome to the board!!! You are just around the corner from me.

Robdude has one hell of a setup - can't wait to hear his once he is finished with it (or will you ever be finished ). I bought an 8-inch Fosgate sub from him that I plan on installing in the front console - one of these days!!!
 
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Old Jul 14, 2002 | 04:54 PM
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I'll probably never be finished!

parham, Welcome. Dynamat or some other sound deadening material will help you out greatly. Very little cost and not too hard to do. You will be happy with the results.
 
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