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Looking for High End 6.5" Components for my 07 SCAB for best Sound Quality

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Old 07-27-2016, 05:52 PM
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Looking for High End 6.5" Components for my 07 SCAB for best Sound Quality

Hello all.

I'm looking to switch out my JL Audio XR650-CSi 6-/2" 2-Way Component Speakers for front doors. They've held up really good over the 8 years they've been in my doors, but my passenger rear door speaker is starting to have a slight noise at higher volumes so I'm just gonna swap out ALL the door speakers.

I've had my eye on this FOCAL component set, Focal K2 Power 165KRX2



I heard them in a local store and was very impressed with their frequency response and their ability to handle a little power.

The price for FOCAL speakers are a bit high but I don't mind paying for good quality.

I'm looking for something with super clean and responsive highs and mids that will blend nicely with my JL Audio Stealthbox Custom-fit fiberglass enclosure with down firing 10" W3v3 subwoofer.

Here are the amps that I'm running for all of my speakers...



JL Audio 300/4v2 Slash Series 300 Watt 4 Channel for the door speakers.

JL Audio 500/1v2 Slash Series 500 Watt Mono Amp for the sub with remote bass control.


My head unit is a Kenwood Excelon DNN991HD Navigation unit.

Here is a link to a thread I posted here 8 years ago with my old components, along with pics.


As far as super excellent sound quality and power handling capabilities, what is a good 6.5 inch component set that you guys like?

Thank you for any input!
 

Last edited by nu guy; 07-27-2016 at 06:17 PM.
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Old 07-28-2016, 08:53 AM
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no opinions guys?
 
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Old 08-13-2016, 12:21 PM
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Focal makes a good driver. Some consider them a little too bright but some people like that. That's what makes them sound louder with lower power.

I have a set of Hybrid Audio Legatia that I run active with a C-DSP 6x8.

http://store.12velectronics.com/cate...ogies/Legatia/

https://www.minidsp.com/products/min...-box/c-dsp-6x8

Very happy with that setup but I got a great deal on the drivers. I wouldn't pay retail for them, or the Focals.

If I had to buy at retail I'd get raw drivers and run them active with the C-DSP 6x8. They're going to out perform any passive setup and save you some coin. These are arguably the best bang for the buck...

https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.co...dwoofer-4-ohm/

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...NVX-XSPTW.html

There are better if you want to spend more but those will get you very good SQ with the C-DSP. Those NVX tweeters are made by SB Acoustics and SB sells them raw also but the NVX comes with the grills. They're also the same exact driver that ARC uses and charges about 3x more. SB also makes a highly regarded 6.5 mid if you want them to match. I prefer the scans tho for the money.

If you really want to go high end, these are some of the best...

https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.co...-woofer-4-ohm/

https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.co...20-00-tweeter/

The paper cone will sound better but, being in Ohio, you're better off getting the aluminum cone version of the 18wu.

And if you want to upgrade the DSP. This is arguably the best...

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_975PROD...0116425&awdv=c

Make sure you're doors are properly sealed and deadened or it won't matter much what components you install.

How far down the rabbit hole do you want to go? If you really want the best SQ, ditch the rear speakers and invest in a 3 way front with some custom pods to get a 3" midrange and tweeter on the dash. Rear speakers just muddle the sound from the front stage and a 2 way lacks the ability to cover some frequencies without beaming. A 2 way can still sound very good but a 3 way will sound better and getting them up on the dash with the tweeters on axis will get the stage where it will sound best.

And if you're going that far the next step is to not only deaden and seal the doors but the entire cabin. Get some MLV, CCF, and quality butyl mat and do it right.
 

Last edited by Gannz; 08-13-2016 at 01:08 PM.
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Old 08-31-2016, 07:42 PM
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High end is subjective. Different ears, different thoughts. It's really about how much money you want to spend and how much effort. You can spend around $2000 for a really nice 3-way setup from Hertz, Morel, Audison, etc., and then pay someone another $1000 to do a "proper" install. If you're looking to just replace the factory 2-way components in their locations, just get a 2-way that sounds good to your ears.
 
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Old 09-25-2016, 03:02 PM
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And if you want to upgrade the DSP. This is arguably the best...

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_975PROD...0116425&awdv=c

Make sure you're doors are properly sealed and deadened or it won't matter much what components you install.

How may I seal and deadened the rear doors?
 
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Old 09-26-2016, 02:49 PM
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I use sheet metal and wrap both sides in a quality butyl mat instead of the ABS used in the video.

I also use a quality MLV (mass loaded vinyl) instead of the luxury liner. LL is good stuff but expensive.

Couple of things I also do differently... you want a layer of CCF (closed cell foam) between the interior door skin and MLV to act as a decoupler. And you want to cover about 60% of the outer door skin with butyl mat to reduce vibration. Not sure about all the years but my 06 has one small piece of butyl mat factory installed already on the outer skin.

You don't need to go crazy with the templates and jigs either. It can be done without them and I use the stock plastic vapor barrier as a template for the CCF/MLV.
 

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Old 11-09-2016, 05:41 PM
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it's some good info in here!

thank you guys!
 
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Old 11-09-2016, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Gannz View Post
Focal makes a good driver. Some consider them a little too bright but some people like that. That's what makes them sound louder with lower power.

I have a set of Hybrid Audio Legatia that I run active with a C-DSP 6x8.

http://store.12velectronics.com/cate...ogies/Legatia/

https://www.minidsp.com/products/min...-box/c-dsp-6x8

Very happy with that setup but I got a great deal on the drivers. I wouldn't pay retail for them, or the Focals.

If I had to buy at retail I'd get raw drivers and run them active with the C-DSP 6x8. They're going to out perform any passive setup and save you some coin. These are arguably the best bang for the buck...

https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.co...dwoofer-4-ohm/

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...NVX-XSPTW.html

There are better if you want to spend more but those will get you very good SQ with the C-DSP. Those NVX tweeters are made by SB Acoustics and SB sells them raw also but the NVX comes with the grills. They're also the same exact driver that ARC uses and charges about 3x more. SB also makes a highly regarded 6.5 mid if you want them to match. I prefer the scans tho for the money.

If you really want to go high end, these are some of the best...

https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.co...-woofer-4-ohm/

https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.co...20-00-tweeter/

The paper cone will sound better but, being in Ohio, you're better off getting the aluminum cone version of the 18wu.

And if you want to upgrade the DSP. This is arguably the best...

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_975PROD...0116425&awdv=c

Make sure you're doors are properly sealed and deadened or it won't matter much what components you install.

How far down the rabbit hole do you want to go? If you really want the best SQ, ditch the rear speakers and invest in a 3 way front with some custom pods to get a 3" midrange and tweeter on the dash. Rear speakers just muddle the sound from the front stage and a 2 way lacks the ability to cover some frequencies without beaming. A 2 way can still sound very good but a 3 way will sound better and getting them up on the dash with the tweeters on axis will get the stage where it will sound best.

And if you're going that far the next step is to not only deaden and seal the doors but the entire cabin. Get some MLV, CCF, and quality butyl mat and do it right.
this is really good stuff Gannz!

I may have to look at that DSP too!

Thanks!
 
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Old 12-25-2016, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Gannz View Post
if you really want the best SQ, ditch the rear speakers and invest in a 3 way front with some custom pods to get a 3" midrange and tweeter on the dash. Rear speakers just muddle the sound from the front stage and a 2 way lacks the ability to cover some frequencies without beaming. A 2 way can still sound very good but a 3 way will sound better and getting them up on the dash with the tweeters on axis will get the stage where it will sound best.
Hey Gannz, what do you think about the Q-Form kick panel pods for a 3-way woofer and mid woofer?

I have my front door cavities sealed up pretty good with Dynamat and I get pretty good mid bass response from my mid bass woofer because of it.

Do you think the Q-Form kick panel enclosure will produce some descent mid bass with a Focal 3-way component woofer and mid range driver?

Thanks.



 

Last edited by nu guy; 12-25-2016 at 07:49 AM.
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Old 04-15-2018, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by nu guy View Post
Hey Gannz, what do you think about the Q-Form kick panel pods for a 3-way woofer and mid woofer?

I have my front door cavities sealed up pretty good with Dynamat and I get pretty good mid bass response from my mid bass woofer because of it.

Do you think the Q-Form kick panel enclosure will produce some descent mid bass with a Focal 3-way component woofer and mid range driver?

Thanks.



Back in the day, I had those in my 98 Civic hatchback back loaded with Canton components. All I can say is OMG those were nice! Wish they made those for my 14 F-150! Wish I could get those Canton speakers too. Did they quit the car audio game?
 


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