Okay guys right now I currently have a JL Audio 10W3v3-2 being fed 400 watts RMS at 2 ohms. It sounds good but, would I put out way more bass if I went with the Alpine SWR-1023D and fed it 600 watts RMS wired down to 1 ohm in a .8 sealed enclosure? This is the amp I have Polk Audio PA1100.5

 

One thing I should mention is while I am looking for more thump I don't want to sacrafice the sound quality of my system.

 

To get more output, you need more cone area which mean larger subwoofers. Look into some shallow 12s and get 2 of them, that should fit your needs.

 

Actually to get more output you have to displace more air, there are a few ways of doing this. One way is like you said move up in sub size, however that doesn't always mean it will be louder, there are 10's that will crush 12's in spl. The other way is to increase the xmax, a sub that moves .5" and is 10" will not be as loud as a sub that moves 1" and is 10".

To figure out is one is louder than the other, take the xmax and multiply it by the listed cone area, that will give you how much air the sub will displace.

 

birddog_61 I was able to find the cone area of the Alpine, but JL does not list theirs.

 

Very true. I was assuming he was wanting an "under the seat" setup, un which case you will not fit any high xmax 10" drivers due to depth and space requirements. We also must consider the amount of power on tap and the efficiency of said woofer. Sure a 10" driver may have 20mm xmax, but rated 800w rms with low sensitivity in a small sealed enclosure is going to take a ton of power to get high excursion. You can also increase output ~3dB with a ported enclosure, but again you need more space and under the seat isn't optimum.

The 10w3 displaces 14mm xmax while the shallow Alpine 12 and BM mkIII also have 14mm xmax with lower distortion motors, and are 12" drivers so clearly they have the advantage here.

 

I have a 2010 f150 and had two type rs the new ones, and I now have the jl's. I don't think you would be disappointed in either, but the jl's sound so much better with everything but rap. Yes the type r's will hit marginally harder, but the do not sound as good period. The reason I switched is a long story. Basically I thought they were blown, but come to find out the amp was trying to play stereo. I don't fully understand this, but my local audio guy got creative with the rca's and bingo it was fixed. If it matters I have the alpine mrp-m1000.

 

Well everything I have read states that the Type R not only hits very hard, but has good sound quality too. I'm okay if the sound quality is not quite as good as the W3. I just want it to hit significantly harder than the W3. I would think feeding it 200 more watts than the W3 is getting that it indeed would, but before I purchased it I just wanted some personal experience from a few people.

 

love my type R 12, but miss my 2 type R 12's

 

I'm curious as to which subwoofer you guys would choose here.

10W3v3-2 being fed 400 watts RMS at 2 ohms in a .08 sealed enclosure

or

Alpine SWR-1023D wired to 1 ohm being fed 600 watt RMS in a .08 sealed enclosure

Before I spend 120 bucks on the Alpine I would like to know if I am going to hear a significant difference in bass granted its being fed 200 more watts than the W3.

 

im assuming you meant .8 and i would recommend the alpines, i am not a fan of JL subs other than the W7 i have a friend that is selling his used type r 10's if you are considering used i could get you his email, i think he is wanting like 80 each

 

There will not be a significant difference in output between those two 10" drivers. Do the Alpine 12" shallow, it will murder both of the options you are considering.

 

Which Alpine are you referring to?

 

The SWR T12? If so what would I do with my current box that's for a 10? Cut the hole bigger?

 

i second this, i have been very impressed with everything ive read about the new alpine type r shallow sub and this is what hes talking about...

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...e-SWR-T12.html