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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 06:47 PM
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Timelessr1, Msall150, I appreciate your input on this subject, you guys have been super informative.
I have looked at the ID 10's, and with those I would not even need to cut the box at all. Do you think that I would have to add a riser to the bottom of the face of the box (sub side) for the larger throw of the sub? I am not against it at all. Just want to make sure that if I go that route, which, if I change subs anyways, I will go with a larger throw. By the way, those 10W1's were hitting today, with the non polyfilled box, but again, got the volume up and you could here it hit it's limit, pretty quick. The do sound great though, at a lower volume. But like everyone at one time or another, I want to be able to show off at the appropriate time, and these 10W1's will not do it for me.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 07:51 PM
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Yes, you will need to add a little space under the box for the increased excursion of the ID subwoofers. I had to do the same with the Kodas when I used them in that box.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 08:25 PM
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Ok, very good. I will look into this option for sure. How do the ID's compare to the Kicker cvx?
 
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 09:06 PM
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Ok, very good. I will look into this option for sure. How do the ID's compare to the Kicker cvx?
I personally never used ID's but have used tons of Kicker for the last 22 years. I havent tried anything new from kicker in the last 2-3 years though...but from past experience, I wouldnt recommend Kicker. I hated their solobarics...free airs, and comps series. They seemed to really lack musical transition (translation= muddy)

ID's reputaion has been great from the start so between the two...id go ID
 
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 09:16 PM
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 11:20 PM
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What do you guys think about Dayton's, the MK III's to be exact. Someone had referenced them earlier. I know nothing about this company (Dayton).
 
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 01:10 AM
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Dayton builds a lot of OEM speakers for home audio companies. Their speakers are cheap to buy since they are OEM, but they have extremely high build quality (much higher than that of most mainstream audio equipment with marked up pricing).

As far as your question, the Dayton HO10 is a fantastic woofer. It plays best in ~.5 sealed or .7 ported tuned to 30Hz. For your sealed box, the ID will still provide you with more output from increased excursion. If you had just a single 10" box, adding an external port and using the Dayton driver would be a very sweet setup.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxwell881
Timelessr1, Msall150, I appreciate your input on this subject, you guys have been super informative.
I have looked at the ID 10's, and with those I would not even need to cut the box at all. Do you think that I would have to add a riser to the bottom of the face of the box (sub side) for the larger throw of the sub?
I have the single version of your atrend box filled with an ID10. I've had no problems at all with the speaker contacting anything but air. If the dual box has the same side profile I don't think you'll have any problems with the ID.

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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 04:21 PM
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Anyone mention the JL 10W1 are only rated to 125W RMS?

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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 06:56 PM
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I have the single version of your atrend box filled with an ID10. I've had no problems at all with the speaker contacting anything but air. If the dual box has the same side profile I don't think you'll have any problems with the ID.

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So you have not had to modify the box at all, or the seat mounting position? I am assuming that you just stuck the box where it needed to go, and that's it? If so, then this looks like the way to go for me. The ID's, seem to be highly rated by lots of forums, especially DIYMA.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 07:08 PM
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So I am going to go ahead and buy a couple of ID10D4's, and I am assuming that running them in parallel, is the way to go. Also, the JL Audio 500/1 setting to start with? What is a good starting point when setting up a sub for the first time, and how do you properly break in a sub, so it's life is long and strong?
 
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 09:39 PM
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Make sure that amp is 1 ohm stable if you go with D4 coils. As far as breaking in, bleh...its a subwoofer, hook it up and let it rip!
 
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 10:12 PM
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I am not sure if the amp I have is stable at 1 ohm. Its a jl audio 500/1 mono slash amp.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 01:40 AM
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Marc, come on bro.... I taught you better that that....

You can get 2 subs w/ D4 ohm coils and wire it to 4 ohms. It will just be a series parallel config.

A JL 500/1 is NOT stable at 1ohm. It will give 500wRMS from 1.6ohms to 4ohms. Run a search with the Keywords: L.P H.P A.P Gai..ns. Do not include the periods in the words of that. I did that so this thread will not show up in the search list.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 12:56 PM
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So you have not had to modify the box at all, or the seat mounting position? I am assuming that you just stuck the box where it needed to go, and that's it? If so, then this looks like the way to go for me. The ID's, seem to be highly rated by lots of forums, especially DIYMA.
No mods whatsoever to the box or seat mounting position. I did pop off the dust cap on the sub because it was just barely touching the box enough to be annoying. Ten seconds with a big friggin screwdriver took care of that.

Caveat: If I really push the sub I the box will buzz against the seat pan. Some folks solve this by hammering the seat pan into submission. Since I am loath to go around whacking the hell out of my truck I solve it by simply pulling the box out a couple of inches (like only three or four. Doesn't take much). For day-to-day stuff it doesn't bother me at all. Plus, all it takes is a few seconds to shove the box back into place if I intend to carry passengers, and I haven't banged big-*** dents into the bottom of my pristine seats.

Brad
 
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