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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Norm
It gets its charge from the highest voltage source in the system at the time. The highest voltage source is always your current source.
The cap voltage is whatever the overall system voltage is. It can't supply any usable current as a result. It simply can't store enough.



They are just another load and if your battery and alternator cannot keep up on their own adding a cap will not make it better.
Unlike a battery, the cap is never a load on the alt. However, also unlike a battery, it cannot store enough energy to make a real contribution to the overall situation.
A cap will not solve a poor supply problem but it can stiffen a good supply and fill in rapid transients.
The biggest cap made might be able to help a tiny bit. The usable energy stored in a cap in a lossless environment (which we all know doesn't exist) is 0.5 amp-seconds per Farad. Now compare that to the multi- amp-hour capacity of even the smallest battery and it should be obvious what makes more sense to add you think that you need an electrical upgrade. Couple that with the fact that a good battery costs significantly less than a useless cap and it becomes a real no-brainer.
If your lights are dimming you have a bigger problem.
Basic electrical theory tells us that with a high powered system, barring a large reserve buffer (read: battery bank), the lights are going to dim. No way around it. Even with a big alternator, it's pretty much unavoidable.
Low E has it right. It is like a cup of water thrown in a swimming pool.
More like spitting in the ocean...
 
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 04:02 AM
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wonder why you got fired...
Technically, I didnt get fired. I was laid off and found humor in the play on words. But will have you know that I have not updated my signature in a while and am no longer "fired". Oh and thanks for pointing that out to me, ill have to update that for ya...

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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 06:26 AM
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Helotaxi, everything I said is correct. A cap is a load on your system when it needs to be charged. A cap gets its charge from your highest voltage source which should be your alternator if your system is working correctly. A cap will only charge to the highest voltage in the system. You are also correct, a capacitor will not store enough charge to fix a problem and it discharges too quickly in most cases to be of any use. Basic electronic theory says that if your supply is big enough for your loads you will not have any dimming. No need to argue the same side of the story.
 
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