JL 13TW5 or 2-8w3?
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Using the speakers listed, I would venture that the first statement is correct. Output should be similar, or close enough to be a wash. The excursion of the 8s (and the TW) leaves a lot to be desired, and the TW has more cone area.
Basically, if I had the space I would do the TW between the choices listed.
With that said, a higher quality 8" sub setup in a properly sized and tuned enclosure will not give up anything to a sealed box *in a vehicle, with music.*
I am throwing on those caveats, as all popular radio music, and in the genre's the OP listed, will not have any content below30-35hz (most peak around 40-45hz - thats why most mass produced stuff is tuned there...). This means a box tuned to ~30 hz or so would provide output at all used frequencies, and probably quite a bit more, thanks to cabin gain and a sealed box roll off.
The low end extension is not really needed for music in a car, so the advantage to a larger cone in a sealed box is generally over rated. much more important is the amount of air moved and the ability to do so at a usable frequency.
The idea of reaching 16hz in car is pretty much a waste. In fact, I would venture a guess that many of us using a SSF have it set above 20hz, with many around 29-30hz for the protection of the woofer.
All of this changes, of course, if there is content at the lower frequencies, but I do not see that as realistic in a car environment.
Basically, if I had the space I would do the TW between the choices listed.
With that said, a higher quality 8" sub setup in a properly sized and tuned enclosure will not give up anything to a sealed box *in a vehicle, with music.*
I am throwing on those caveats, as all popular radio music, and in the genre's the OP listed, will not have any content below30-35hz (most peak around 40-45hz - thats why most mass produced stuff is tuned there...). This means a box tuned to ~30 hz or so would provide output at all used frequencies, and probably quite a bit more, thanks to cabin gain and a sealed box roll off.
The low end extension is not really needed for music in a car, so the advantage to a larger cone in a sealed box is generally over rated. much more important is the amount of air moved and the ability to do so at a usable frequency.
The idea of reaching 16hz in car is pretty much a waste. In fact, I would venture a guess that many of us using a SSF have it set above 20hz, with many around 29-30hz for the protection of the woofer.
All of this changes, of course, if there is content at the lower frequencies, but I do not see that as realistic in a car environment.
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My 4 8's kick pretty hard with a good 1400 watts behind them.... had the same power going to 2 15's and ended up with alot more low end but lost that bite the 8s have....
this thread also reminds me why I dont come here anymore....
"minez junky speakerz is bestez than joors and I know that cauz I dont know any better and someone fed me a line of bullsh*z when I payed too much for these and now I can skool you cause I haz speakerz"
this thread also reminds me why I dont come here anymore....
"minez junky speakerz is bestez than joors and I know that cauz I dont know any better and someone fed me a line of bullsh*z when I payed too much for these and now I can skool you cause I haz speakerz"
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For those that offered advice, I am grateful. For everyone else, thanks for the laughs!! As I type, I am in discussions with my daughter as to why she doesn't need a $285 pair of PRPS Jeans when Levi's are good and you can get a pair for $40! Sounds like the JL vs all others argument doesn't it!!!
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For those that offered advice, I am grateful. For everyone else, thanks for the laughs!! As I type, I am in discussions with my daughter as to why she doesn't need a $285 pair of PRPS Jeans when Levi's are good and you can get a pair for $40! Sounds like the JL vs all others argument doesn't it!!!
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My 4 8's kick pretty hard with a good 1400 watts behind them.... had the same power going to 2 15's and ended up with alot more low end but lost that bite the 8s have....
this thread also reminds me why I dont come here anymore....
"minez junky speakerz is bestez than joors and I know that cauz I dont know any better and someone fed me a line of bullsh*z when I payed too much for these and now I can skool you cause I haz speakerz"
this thread also reminds me why I dont come here anymore....
"minez junky speakerz is bestez than joors and I know that cauz I dont know any better and someone fed me a line of bullsh*z when I payed too much for these and now I can skool you cause I haz speakerz"
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My 4 8's kick pretty hard with a good 1400 watts behind them.... had the same power going to 2 15's and ended up with alot more low end but lost that bite the 8s have....
this thread also reminds me why I dont come here anymore....
"minez junky speakerz is bestez than joors and I know that cauz I dont know any better and someone fed me a line of bullsh*z when I payed too much for these and now I can skool you cause I haz speakerz"
this thread also reminds me why I dont come here anymore....
"minez junky speakerz is bestez than joors and I know that cauz I dont know any better and someone fed me a line of bullsh*z when I payed too much for these and now I can skool you cause I haz speakerz"
thats funny ur owning a new ford over priced pos. i could buy and old 70s chevy or f150 and still be better then ur ****ty new truck in every catergory besides interior
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does anyone else see a lack of maturity?
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Originally Posted by vettekid12
thats funny ur owning a new ford over priced pos. i could buy and old 70s chevy or f150 and still be better then ur ****ty new truck in every catergory besides interior
Sad.
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JL 13TW5 or 2-8w3
Lets keep this insane conversation going, but first, thanks again to all those with informational and helpful posts. Im beginning to steer away from the 13tw5 stealthbox for the lower cost of the 2-8w3's. From what I gather, I will lose some low end, but the 8's would be respectable? Any other brands I should consider for my 8's? I've always owned JL, but am willing to consider other brands. As a reminder, my taste in music runs the spectrum from blue grass to hip-hop and metal.
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mcclenj asked:
Any other brands I should consider for my 8's?
Last time I checked the 9500's didnt come in a 8" model.
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Lets keep this insane conversation going, but first, thanks again to all those with informational and helpful posts. Im beginning to steer away from the 13tw5 stealthbox for the lower cost of the 2-8w3's. From what I gather, I will lose some low end, but the 8's would be respectable? Any other brands I should consider for my 8's? I've always owned JL, but am willing to consider other brands. As a reminder, my taste in music runs the spectrum from blue grass to hip-hop and metal.