Replacing factory 6x8's in 2007 CrewCab
Replacing factory 6x8's in 2007 CrewCab
I want to upgrade my door speakers from stock and im looking at three different sets right now. Which set are the better speakers?
Pioneer Model # TS-A6872R
Infinity Model # REF6822CF
Pioneer Model # TS-D6802R
Pioneer Model # TS-A6872R
Infinity Model # REF6822CF
Pioneer Model # TS-D6802R
I may do the same if it works out well for you. Bookmark.
I just installed the Pioneer D6802s. Driving them with a Crossfire 705 and backed up with a Image Dynamics ID10 in an Atrend box under the back seat. Couldn't be happier.
By the way, don't bother installing new speakers unless you intend to amp them. I had the Pioneers in for a week or so until I was able to wire in the amp. Without the extra power it's a useless waste of money unless you are preparing for more power down the road. Aside from a slight improvement in the highs they sounded pretty much like the stockers when driven with the factory HU. Definitely not worth the cost if that's the only change you intend to make.
Brad
By the way, don't bother installing new speakers unless you intend to amp them. I had the Pioneers in for a week or so until I was able to wire in the amp. Without the extra power it's a useless waste of money unless you are preparing for more power down the road. Aside from a slight improvement in the highs they sounded pretty much like the stockers when driven with the factory HU. Definitely not worth the cost if that's the only change you intend to make.
Brad
Last edited by Brad Johnson; Mar 6, 2010 at 02:49 AM.
I just installed the Pioneer D6802s. Driving them with a Crossfire 705 and backed up with a Image Dynamics ID10 in an Atrend box under the back seat. Couldn't be happier.
By the way, don't bother installing new speakers unless you intend to amp them. I had the Pioneers in for a week or so until I was able to wire in the amp. Without the extra power it's a useless waste of money unless you are preparing for more power down the road. Aside from a slight improvement in the highs they sounded pretty much like the stockers when driven with the factory HU. Definitely not worth the cost if that's the only change you intend to make.
Brad
By the way, don't bother installing new speakers unless you intend to amp them. I had the Pioneers in for a week or so until I was able to wire in the amp. Without the extra power it's a useless waste of money unless you are preparing for more power down the road. Aside from a slight improvement in the highs they sounded pretty much like the stockers when driven with the factory HU. Definitely not worth the cost if that's the only change you intend to make.
Brad
I installed the Pioneer TS-A6872R in my 2010 Supercrew using the stock head unit and no amp. Sounds better than stock - better highs and mids and more defined bass.
One thing to watch for - they include zip ties to use to secure the wires. Be sure to use them. I didn't on the original install and the wire was pushed against the woofer, which made the speaker rattle. Zip-tying the harness fixed the issue.
Bestbuy had the speakers for around $45. Well worth the investment at that price, imo. I might eventually add a small amp to see if I can make it sound even better.
One thing to watch for - they include zip ties to use to secure the wires. Be sure to use them. I didn't on the original install and the wire was pushed against the woofer, which made the speaker rattle. Zip-tying the harness fixed the issue.
Bestbuy had the speakers for around $45. Well worth the investment at that price, imo. I might eventually add a small amp to see if I can make it sound even better.
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I have to disagree with that tremendously. I have installed plenty of aftermarket speakers off of stock head units without amplification, and every single one of them has sounded better then the stock speakers did. Hell, even my house brand Insignia speakers are an improvement over stock PAPER speakers.
Please keep in mind that by 'amp' I mean just about anything. It doesn't have to be a system wide revamp, or some kind of high-end uber monster that requires rear bulkhead surgery and the associated cabling headaches. A (physically) small, inexpensive 50wx4 amp run off the factory HU and driving upgraded speakers will kick the crap out of a speaker upgrade alone. Amps like that can be had for little to nothing, adding a minimal increase to the overall expense. There are tons of habitual upgraders out there. One of them will have a take-out they'll let go for a song.
Also keep in mind many amps are rediculously big because it looks good sitting on a store shelf. There are amps small enough to be easily be mounted under the dash. At under 200w total they won't generate enough heat to cause problems in an under-dash situation. If you can find two still in the box, Radio Shack used to make an incredibly good slim-line 40wx2 (this was 20 years ago, but I still see one every now and then). They are small enough you could easily stack two of them in the space underneath the factory radio.
*edit to add*
A quick Google turned up this amp. At 6.5" x 9.5" and under two inches thick it would fit perfectly under the factory HU with room to spare. It even has high-level inputs so you wouldn't have to bother with a line-level converter.
http://www.offshorewake.com/store/pr...eed#googlebase
Brad
Last edited by Brad Johnson; Mar 7, 2010 at 05:14 PM.
Problem is... "better" is subjective. It does slightly improve the clarity and allow a little more bass which, to some, may represent a light-years improvement. In truly objective terms, though, it's really not all that much. It doesn't add any more volume, it only makes the audio slighly clearer and better defined. Based solely on the experience of my install that small improvement simply isn't enough to justify the expense or time unless you intend to amp them. I can't in good conscience recommend a speaker upgrade without a caveat that the improvement will be somewhere between slight and modest.
Adding an amp doesnt add volume either. Adding an amp allows you to turn the volume up louder before you get distortion. The only way to add true volume is to add speakers.
Please keep in mind that by 'amp' I mean just about anything. It doesn't have to be a system wide revamp, or some kind of high-end uber monster that requires rear bulkhead surgery and the associated cabling headaches. A (physically) small, inexpensive 50wx4 amp run off the factory HU and driving upgraded speakers will kick the crap out of a speaker upgrade alone. Amps like that can be had for little to nothing, adding a minimal increase to the overall expense. There are tons of habitual upgraders out there. One of them will have a take-out they'll let go for a song.
im not saying that an amp with aftermarket speakers isnt better then a stock headunit with aftermarket speakers. Obviously 10w x4 isnt as good as 50x4. But to say that aftermarket speakers off a stock headunit isnt better stock speakers off a stock headunit is misguided.
Also keep in mind many amps are rediculously big because it looks good sitting on a store shelf. There are amps small enough to be easily be mounted under the dash. At under 200w total they won't generate enough heat to cause problems in an under-dash situation. If you can find two still in the box, Radio Shack used to make an incredibly good slim-line 40wx2 (this was 20 years ago, but I still see one every now and then). They are small enough you could easily stack two of them in the space underneath the factory radio.
*edit to add*
A quick Google turned up this amp. At 6.5" x 9.5" and under two inches thick it would fit perfectly under the factory HU with room to spare. It even has high-level inputs so you wouldn't have to bother with a line-level converter.
http://www.offshorewake.com/store/pr...eed#googlebase
The question is, who would put a no name, marine-grade audio amp in their truck?
Brad
Adding an amp doesnt add volume either. Adding an amp allows you to turn the volume up louder before you get distortion. The only way to add true volume is to add speakers.
Please keep in mind that by 'amp' I mean just about anything. It doesn't have to be a system wide revamp, or some kind of high-end uber monster that requires rear bulkhead surgery and the associated cabling headaches. A (physically) small, inexpensive 50wx4 amp run off the factory HU and driving upgraded speakers will kick the crap out of a speaker upgrade alone. Amps like that can be had for little to nothing, adding a minimal increase to the overall expense. There are tons of habitual upgraders out there. One of them will have a take-out they'll let go for a song.
im not saying that an amp with aftermarket speakers isnt better then a stock headunit with aftermarket speakers. Obviously 10w x4 isnt as good as 50x4. But to say that aftermarket speakers off a stock headunit isnt better stock speakers off a stock headunit is misguided.
Also keep in mind many amps are rediculously big because it looks good sitting on a store shelf. There are amps small enough to be easily be mounted under the dash. At under 200w total they won't generate enough heat to cause problems in an under-dash situation. If you can find two still in the box, Radio Shack used to make an incredibly good slim-line 40wx2 (this was 20 years ago, but I still see one every now and then). They are small enough you could easily stack two of them in the space underneath the factory radio.
*edit to add*
A quick Google turned up this amp. At 6.5" x 9.5" and under two inches thick it would fit perfectly under the factory HU with room to spare. It even has high-level inputs so you wouldn't have to bother with a line-level converter.
http://www.offshorewake.com/store/pr...eed#googlebase
The question is, who would put a no name, marine-grade audio amp in their truck?
Brad
Originally Posted by Sundevil2188
The question is, who would put a no name, marine-grade audio amp in their truck?
Brad
I agree that there's not a massive improvement in sound just by swapping speakers.
But, I'm old and am not looking to rock out or go loud. My complaints with the factory setup was lack of highs and mids. The new speakers helped resolve that. I'm sure an amp would make it even better.
FWIW - the stock stereo in this truck sucks. I haven't changed a factory system since my 1992 Toyota Paseo when I was 21 and wanted to 'boom'. For a truck that's otherwise refined, the stock stereo is a pure annoyance.
But, I'm old and am not looking to rock out or go loud. My complaints with the factory setup was lack of highs and mids. The new speakers helped resolve that. I'm sure an amp would make it even better.
FWIW - the stock stereo in this truck sucks. I haven't changed a factory system since my 1992 Toyota Paseo when I was 21 and wanted to 'boom'. For a truck that's otherwise refined, the stock stereo is a pure annoyance.
on the rear doors it was a breeze just had to open the hole with the air nibbler (jig saw could work for this too) to fit the 6x9 it fits behind the factory door panel and grill very nicely ..on the front it looked like it wouldn't work as the door panel is different so i went with 6x8 up front


