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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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use component woofer as sub?

Wondering what you guys think about buying some component speakers and installing the woofer in the rear doors to be used as small subwoofers. I am not willing to sacrifice any rear seat room for a "real" sub/box. I looked at the 6.5-7 inch subs but most are expensive and are much deeper than a 6.5" woofer. I would amp them and use the crossover included in the component set.

Or is this just a waste of time?
 
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 09:46 PM
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Well...
It's definitely not a choice I would make since you can get boxes made for under your backseat.
Another thing would be that you would have to find a good free air sub since you won't be able to seal and tune your doors.

Best choice in my mind would be two tens or maybe two twelve shallows in a box under the seat.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 09:47 PM
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Hello & good evening!

I believe the answer will lie in what you deem to be acceptable in terms of results & expectations.

For certain, they will never measure up to true subs of any description w.r.t low-end extension or clean output without doubling effects at higher levels.

A true sub has unique design properties not evident in a generic woofer.

But - if you are willing to compromise extreme low-end and output for space savings, as long as you choose quality components, and use good installation techniques, you may indeed be satisfied.

I hope I have been able to help; I know little but am eager to please.

Regards & bests

MGD v2.1a
 
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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Thanks Cedar. That's the thing though...I stated I am not giving up my passenger space, too much stuff gets stuffed under the seats when we travel. So I need an alternative. Building a large console sub box is out too, even though they look great.

Thanks MGD.

I should note my current set up which I am extremely happy with, punch 150a2, pioneer premier d720 components, only 2 weeks old.
 

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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 09:53 PM
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Ahh, I didn't think of that since the only thing I keep under my back is my jack.
Hmm...
Getting a nice set of 8" free airs would be a good decision if you could get them if your doors, I believe.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 09:58 PM
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Sealed fiberglass pods are definitly do-able in the doors. I've heard woofers play right down to 40Hz in a door when installed properly. You will need to cut bigger holes in the door frame and deaden it to all hell. Look at the Peerless SLS8 or Dayton RS225 for some examples.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 10:04 AM
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Would a single 8in sub and a small amp on the back wall take up too much space?
>1cuft under the seat sacrificed for the sake of sound quality, time, money and effort?
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 11:16 AM
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What about mounting a slim JL 12" behind the rear seat, and mount the amp under the driver or passenger seat. If im not mistakken the slim JL 12 mounting depth is under 3 inches.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 01:16 PM
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Its not the height thats a problem is the total area that he doesnt want to loose.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PorkCereal
Its not the height thats a problem is the total area that he doesnt want to loose.
Height? I was recommending him mount the sub "behind" the rear seat...not under it. You could fiberglass an enclosure back there that could utilize every nook and cranny and fit back there like a glove. amd if you mount the amp under one of the front seats, then you have all your available cab space still, and still have a 12 inch sub pounding away.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Timelessr1
Height? I was recommending him mount the sub "behind" the rear seat...not under it. You could fiberglass an enclosure back there that could utilize every nook and cranny and fit back there like a glove. amd if you mount the amp under one of the front seats, then you have all your available cab space still, and still have a 12 inch sub pounding away.
That wont work. All 3 of my amps are between 1.5 and 2 inches tall and they rub the back of the seat when it is mounted to the wall.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 04:40 AM
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I don't believe the rear seats in the new F150 will fold forward, so it would be realistic to build a box and install a couple of slim woofers back there. I have a small Rockford Fosgate amplifier mounted under the front passenger seat. As long as water doesn't get on it, it is totally fine. Then again, if your space is limited because of kids, then that wouldn't be a great idea.

I'm not sure if anyone will like what I'm about to suggest, but I'll make it anyway. Sony makes some amps that are REALLY thin, I think just over an inch in height or something, and they are fairly small. I saw some at SEMA a couple of years ago hooked up to Sony subs and they sounded pretty good! Do some searching and you will find room in your truck and good equipment that you can put in there to achieve what you want.

Like mSaLL150 suggested, fiberglass pods can give pretty good bass so long as the pods are degisned to spec. Door speakers can give decent bass, but not a whole lot of it, and not very low.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 07:26 AM
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Thanks for the suggestions. I have already used about a 1/3rd of my rear wall for my amp, crossovers and the mounting board and I do rub a tad on my seat when it gets lifted.

I have only ever farted around with speakers in the past. How much better is an 8 inch sub than a pair of 6.5" mid bass drivers properly set up?

I may have to beg the wife or convince her that the sub is more important than baby stroller...lol
 
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by cheef
I may have to beg the wife or convince her that the sub is more important than baby stroller
Don't even go there, you'll never win that argument, not against a woman.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by cheef
How much better is an 8 inch sub than a pair of 6.5" mid bass drivers properly set up?
IMO, they're about the same. If you can fit an 8" woofer in your box somewhere, I highly suggest going for it rather than using your doors for low bass.
 
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