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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 01:03 AM
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nope they arent in yet and wont be until summer. Still need to get some time and funding for extra amplifier channels and a RF360.2 for extra processing.

But I have heard them in a couple installs and they do sound very very good and get plenty loud. The ones I heard were off 175w per channel (Zuki Eleets) and were crossed 200-6k. Sounded wonderful. Cant beat them for 50 bucks.

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how the hell were they running off 175w and not smoking there only 35 40 w rms speakers?
i was looking at some of the other speakers dayton makes to piece together a 3way up front but wasnt to sure how they would hold up. i have been happy with there subwoofers though theve taken a beating for 6 years now and never missed a beat. just dont know if there smaller components are as durable
 

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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 01:06 AM
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looks good but i wouldnt let anyone ride back there with there feet all over the amp on the floor behind the driver seat and there feet going through the front of those subs
 
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 01:26 AM
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heres a question for you lug, what are the seatbelts going to latch into??
The enclosure will stop just short of the bar and bracing allowing the seatbelts to remain in the factory locations
 
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Sundevil2188
With a title "Here's a REAL sub enclosure suckas" I was expecting something custom built by the poster that would blow me away (or bring me extreme dissapointment and probablly a good laugh). Its all about attitude man, and that title came off with you thinkin you were hot ****. Just saying. The box does look nice though. Is the bottom of the box on the floor? or is it going to be on a bracket?
Hey man, thanks seeing I was just playin' around! I don't have the building capability as a lot of you guys here, so I'd rather have it done right and more often than not that means leaving it to someone who does. I just wanted to show people that there are alternatives to sub enclosures. Giving options and looking at how others have done it is what this forum is all about.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 01:40 AM
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I understand where you are coming from. Some people prefer the high powered ported enclosure, some (like myself) prefer the sealed enclosure with drivers designed for them.

As for Dyn and TC sounds making speakers tweaked to car audio, I really fail to see how these "tweaks" are worth the 1000 bucks you are paying. When I heard $50 Daytons compare to $250 Hybrids, I just dont see why one would spend so much money on those speakers unless they want the name. Sure, they sound fantastic and are the best you can get. But when you can get similar performance out of actual home audio drivers with proper installation and tuning while paying 50-75% less, why not go that route?

Just my opinion, I dont have money to buy expensive stuff so I find alternatives.
See what I mean, that's why I IM you...lol I don't know a lot about Daytons etc, honestly I've never (to my knowledge) been exposed to them. I'm just a consumer who has (IMO) a knack for what sounds good (former SQL car owner and yes my car was built for me), a decent knowledge base of how car audio works, and I'm just going off what I have heard personally. If I ever got to listen to your truck, there's not a doubt in my mind it wouldn't sound good. I spend the money because I know how its going to perform because I've heard it...IDK, does that make sense?
 
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by jrfonte
how the hell were they running off 175w and not smoking there only 35 40 w rms speakers?
i was looking at some of the other speakers dayton makes to piece together a 3way up front but wasnt to sure how they would hold up. i have been happy with there subwoofers though theve taken a beating for 6 years now and never missed a beat. just dont know if there smaller components are as durable
While the amplifier is capable of 175rms, i doubt the speakers ever see that. The guy has his gains at zero. As for the 3way, find a nice set of tweeters to pair with the rs100 and the rs225 and with proper installation you will be very pleased.
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See what I mean, that's why I IM you...lol I don't know a lot about Daytons etc, honestly I've never (to my knowledge) been exposed to them. I'm just a consumer who has (IMO) a knack for what sounds good (former SQL car owner and yes my car was built for me), a decent knowledge base of how car audio works, and I'm just going off what I have heard personally. If I ever got to listen to your truck, there's not a doubt in my mind it wouldn't sound good. I spend the money because I know how its going to perform because I've heard it...IDK, does that make sense?
Totally understand. I was the same way until I actually started hearing installs with these drivers (Peerless, Seas, Dayton etc).
 
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mSaLL150
I understand where you are coming from. Some people prefer the high powered ported enclosure, some (like myself) prefer the sealed enclosure with drivers designed for them.

As for Dyn and TC sounds making speakers tweaked to car audio, I really fail to see how these "tweaks" are worth the 1000 bucks you are paying. When I heard $50 Daytons compare to $250 Hybrids, I just dont see why one would spend so much money on those speakers unless they want the name. Sure, they sound fantastic and are the best you can get. But when you can get similar performance out of actual home audio drivers with proper installation and tuning while paying 50-75% less, why not go that route?

Just my opinion, I dont have money to buy expensive stuff so I find alternatives.
You watch your mouth now.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jrfonte
how the hell were they running off 175w and not smoking there only 35 40 w rms speakers?
i was looking at some of the other speakers dayton makes to piece together a 3way up front but wasnt to sure how they would hold up. i have been happy with there subwoofers though theve taken a beating for 6 years now and never missed a beat. just dont know if there smaller components are as durable
Many times you can greatly exceed the rated capabilities of a speaker and not see issues. It really depends on a few things: the build quality, the clarity of the signal being sent through it, frequencies played, volume moderation (listening for any signs of struggle), etc.

When I had my JL XR's bridged I was sending over double power to the set and not once had an issue. (70WRMStherm and I sent approx 160ish to each side). Just ask Jake (BlackF150337), he bought the XR's from me 6months ago.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Low_e_Red
Many times you can greatly exceed the rated capabilities of a speaker and not see issues. It really depends on a few things: the build quality, the clarity of the signal being sent through it, frequencies played, volume moderation (listening for any signs of struggle), etc.

When I had my JL XR's bridged I was sending over double power to the set and not once had an issue. (70WRMStherm and I sent approx 160ish to each side). Just ask Jake (BlackF150337), he bought the XR's from me 6months ago.
yea ok since i replaced the tweets in my xr's i removed the rears from the doors and just running the fronts now off my 4 channel bridged with the amp rated at 284wrms x2 at 4 ohms with the gains all the way down without any hitches and they sound alot better now than they did before.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by mSaLL150
While the amplifier is capable of 175rms, i doubt the speakers ever see that. The guy has his gains at zero. As for the 3way, find a nice set of tweeters to pair with the rs100 and the rs225 and with proper installation you will be very pleased.

Totally understand. I was the same way until I actually started hearing installs with these drivers (Peerless, Seas, Dayton etc).
i was thinking about using the rs28a's , rs52's and the rs 225's or 180's and would love to fit the rss210hf-4's in the lower front of the doors somehow where the map pocket is and little drink holder looking thing is. but i doubt it will ever happen
 

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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jrfonte
i was thinking about using the rs28a's , rs52's and the rs 225's or 180's and would love to fit the rss210hf-4's in the lower front of the doors somehow where the map pocket is and little drink holder looking thing is. but i doubt it will ever happen
Honestly, I'd just go with the simple rs100 and rs225 together with some Vifa ring radiators. It WILL kick some serious **** for very little money. Ring radiators aren't great if they are really far off axis, so put them on the dash just slightly off axis pointed at the center of the roof, or on axis with the rs100s.

My 3-way front is going to be HAT tweeters, rs100 midrange and Peerless SLS midbass. 8s in the front doors with 9mm xmax =

Just wait to see which amplifiers I have coming soon to push this front stage.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 02:35 PM
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Yeah I routinely have passengers, so I need the extra seating or I would've saved some $$$ and bought a regular cab...lol

As far going back to sealed for sound, I guess people like Martin Logan and Wilson Audio really don't know much about accurate bass reproduction. I wonder how they sell speakers from $10,000 to $150,000...hmmm and they're ported too? Nah...can't be!

It used to be in my 99 ext. cab, which is long gone.



But anywho, your going to tell me that just because some fancy smancy expensive home audio companies use ported applications, that ported is the end be all of enclosures???
 
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 09:42 PM
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But anywho, your going to tell me that just because some fancy smancy expensive home audio companies use ported applications, that ported is the end be all of enclosures???
Not at all, sealed enclosures have their place and sound really good with a fairly straight forward set-up. I just want people to know that SEALED FOR SQ is not the only option and a properly designed ported enclosure can be just as accurate and sound just as good (as illustrated by high-end home audio) and for more people than not (in my experience) it sounds better regardless of what kind of music you listen too
 
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