Proper sound staging.
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Proper sound staging.
hey guys, i have been trying to find information on proper sound staging and i have come up empty handed. i talked to the local shop but he was basically just trying to sell me products and his time to come up with designs for my truck.
im pretty confident in working with anything that deals with automototive products, but i like to research before i do so.
if someone could provide me with as much information on sound staging as possible, i would GREATLY appreciate it.
im pretty confident in working with anything that deals with automototive products, but i like to research before i do so.
if someone could provide me with as much information on sound staging as possible, i would GREATLY appreciate it.
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This is what you want:
http://www.autosound2000.com/as2k/au...fs_thebook.htm
Also if you are near SpeakerWorks, give them a call or visit them:
http://www.usdaudio.com/sw/cars/
http://www.autosound2000.com/as2k/au...fs_thebook.htm
Also if you are near SpeakerWorks, give them a call or visit them:
http://www.usdaudio.com/sw/cars/
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From: Nebraska
This is the imaging tutorial from one of torques links...
http://www.usdaudio.com/tutorials/imaging.php
Its a pretty good real, although I dont agree with all of it (surprise surprise).
General things, keep the pathlengths equal as stated in the tutorial. They only talk about physical placement of the drivers though, getting them physically the same distance from the listener. This is of course the better way ,but not always possible. Time alignment is your friend here. Even with comps in a set of kick panels your pathlengths arent perfect and time alignment will really help to center the sound stage infront of you. A little tweeking going a long way with T/A
Im not a fan of kick panels in a truck at all anyway.
Speaker volume (level) in relation to the other speakers is another thing you want to look at. An example is in my truck, my mids are in the factory spot. The right mid sounds a lot louder than the left mid. Even though the left one is closer, my legs block some of that sound so the left one sounds louder. To fix this you either need to turn down the gain on that drivers channel or if your HU has a level setting play with it.
It doesnt exactley affect where the soundstage is, but its very annoying having one side louder than the other.
Speaker axis, again as mentioned in the tutorial, is something to pay attention too. Not QUITE as important with frequencies under around 2kHz (timing and phase are more important) but, since most mids play higher than this, it will help to aim them towards the listener. Tweeter axis is very important though. Tweeter phasing is also something that should be played with.
Any type of reflections is a bish too. Tweeters reflecting off the windshield or dash can make it darn near impossible to get a good soundstage.
Anywho, thats a start on my 2 cents
http://www.usdaudio.com/tutorials/imaging.php
Its a pretty good real, although I dont agree with all of it (surprise surprise).
General things, keep the pathlengths equal as stated in the tutorial. They only talk about physical placement of the drivers though, getting them physically the same distance from the listener. This is of course the better way ,but not always possible. Time alignment is your friend here. Even with comps in a set of kick panels your pathlengths arent perfect and time alignment will really help to center the sound stage infront of you. A little tweeking going a long way with T/A
Im not a fan of kick panels in a truck at all anyway.
Speaker volume (level) in relation to the other speakers is another thing you want to look at. An example is in my truck, my mids are in the factory spot. The right mid sounds a lot louder than the left mid. Even though the left one is closer, my legs block some of that sound so the left one sounds louder. To fix this you either need to turn down the gain on that drivers channel or if your HU has a level setting play with it.
It doesnt exactley affect where the soundstage is, but its very annoying having one side louder than the other.
Speaker axis, again as mentioned in the tutorial, is something to pay attention too. Not QUITE as important with frequencies under around 2kHz (timing and phase are more important) but, since most mids play higher than this, it will help to aim them towards the listener. Tweeter axis is very important though. Tweeter phasing is also something that should be played with.
Any type of reflections is a bish too. Tweeters reflecting off the windshield or dash can make it darn near impossible to get a good soundstage.
Anywho, thats a start on my 2 cents