wire mids in parallel??
wire mids in parallel??
I heard someone talking about but was not sure if it works, he was saying 2 4ohm mids wired in parallel drop the ohms to 2. Would this be a good way to go if the amp can drop to 2 ohms? thanks for the reply...
Last edited by somcoupe; May 20, 2006 at 04:40 PM.
Like dconder said, this will work for 2 mids on the same channel and on the same side of the vehicle. However, the advantages of doing so are grossly overrated, ESPECIALLY if doing it for the purpose of "getting more power from the amp". To me, the disadvantages far outweigh any possible power increases or SPL increases. That is me speaking from the standpoint of one who loves good imaging and soundstage capabilties from my system, and who understands what increases in the number of drivers and increases in power actually produce in the way of results. It's not as astounding as many people think, particularly those who may be relatively new to audio.
2 seperate channels...NO, don't do it. If you want more power, get a different amp that can handle the power rating you want at 4ohms. It will be more efficient, have less distortion, s/n, etc.
If you want it louder, get another pair of comps and another amp. But, then you start messing with your imaging.
If you want it louder, get another pair of comps and another amp. But, then you start messing with your imaging.
cool thanks, i'll prolly just leave it how it is now then, I have the sound set exaclty how I like it, and it's very clear. I may consider maybe getting a better 4ch later on, right now it's a 50x4@4ohm fosgate. I wanna get about 1-150x4 and replace the mids I have now, the problem I have now is the bass is overpowering my mids, and the amp gain is only turned 1/2 way up.
[QUOTE=somcoupe]cool thanks, i'll prolly just leave it how it is now then, I have the sound set exaclty how I like it, and it's very clear. I may consider maybe getting a better 4ch later on, right now it's a 50x4@4ohm fosgate. I wanna get about 1-150x4 and replace the mids I have now, the problem I have now is the bass is overpowering my mids, and the amp gain is only turned 1/2 way up.[/QUOTE
If the bass overpowering your other speakers is a "problem", then turn the gain down if it's now halfway. At least until you can get the mids "louder". Other things to look at that will have the same effect as increasing power for your mids is to do some sound dampening to keep out noise, etc. Sometimes sound dampening can be very cost effective compared to upgrading amplification, especially if the vehicle has no dampeneing done to it at all. By that I mean that gains are easy to make initially by dampening when none has been done, but the furthwer you take it, the harder those gains are to achieve. Those same gains in SPL may not be as easy, or as cheap, simply by upping the power without sound dampening. Of course, doing both would really be the way to go. Every dB that can be gained in SPL at the listener's position is the same whether it's gained by sound dampening or power increases, or both. People who have little experience with these kinds of things are almost always surprised at the differences made by changing to more powerful amps or adding speakers. Increasing SPL is NOT a linear thing. In other words, doubling power does not double SPL. Doubling SPL, which is a 10dB increase, requires ten times the power. 110dB is "twice" as loud as 100dB. 120dB is "twice" as loud as 110dB, etc. So if you are using 50 watts to get 110dB from your mids, theoretically, to increase to 120dB would require 500 watts. This will vary to some degree in real world use, but this is how it works. Increasing to 150 watts RMS from 50 watts would be a nice increase, but just know that your system will not be 3 times as loud.
If the bass overpowering your other speakers is a "problem", then turn the gain down if it's now halfway. At least until you can get the mids "louder". Other things to look at that will have the same effect as increasing power for your mids is to do some sound dampening to keep out noise, etc. Sometimes sound dampening can be very cost effective compared to upgrading amplification, especially if the vehicle has no dampeneing done to it at all. By that I mean that gains are easy to make initially by dampening when none has been done, but the furthwer you take it, the harder those gains are to achieve. Those same gains in SPL may not be as easy, or as cheap, simply by upping the power without sound dampening. Of course, doing both would really be the way to go. Every dB that can be gained in SPL at the listener's position is the same whether it's gained by sound dampening or power increases, or both. People who have little experience with these kinds of things are almost always surprised at the differences made by changing to more powerful amps or adding speakers. Increasing SPL is NOT a linear thing. In other words, doubling power does not double SPL. Doubling SPL, which is a 10dB increase, requires ten times the power. 110dB is "twice" as loud as 100dB. 120dB is "twice" as loud as 110dB, etc. So if you are using 50 watts to get 110dB from your mids, theoretically, to increase to 120dB would require 500 watts. This will vary to some degree in real world use, but this is how it works. Increasing to 150 watts RMS from 50 watts would be a nice increase, but just know that your system will not be 3 times as loud.
Thanks for explaining that I guess i'm newer than I thought at this stuff, as far as dampening goes do they make a kit for our trucks? or do you just have to buy it by the ft? what all would ned to be dampened? I may do this first and then see how it sounds.


