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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 05:09 PM
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Looking for suggestions!

Let me first start off by saying I know next to nothing about audio. Don't know what size speakers I have, how to install them, etc. etc. etc.

Having said that, I am looking for assistance in making the sound of my system in my '05 F-150 regular cab a lot better. I do have a Pioneer DEH-P4600MP cd player installed, so that helped some.

What I am looking to accomplish is the best sound for the cheapest price. What can I do that would be the best bang for the buck? Would replacing the speakers be the first step? I just need something that sounds killer in the truck - no need to impress anyone standing outside .

Thanks for any input folks.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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I have Blapunkt (sp) compnets in my truck. They sound great Got them from Crutchfield for a great deal. Check there web site It will give you what will fit and where!!!!!
 
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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Well what kind of budget are you on? Because installs can be costly if you dont know much about car audio. I have an 01 so im not exactly sure what your speaker sizes are, sorry. But if you tell us your budget and find out the speaker size we can tell what stuff is better than others.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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Yeah, we def. need a budget.

Pair of comps and an amp would be the first thing Id do. Screw the back speakers, expecaly(I can never spell that word right ) in a reg cab, waste of money IMO.

Do you want subs?

But first priority (if it was me) would be a pair of comps and a nice 2 channel amp.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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okay, a budget would def be helpful as they said- secondly component speakers up front (a speaker, crossover, and tweeter) will produce a better sound compared to a Coaxial setup (tweeter centrally mounted in speaker) the stocks are 5x7's i believe- i put in 5.5" component rounds up front in my truck- since you're regular cab id agree that your rear spks are going to be low on the importance list. if you want to replace them, sure they'll sound better just get a 5x7 nothing too special. your front components will be primary to the system... figure out what kind of money you want to spend, from there, you can pick a 2ch. amp to push your speakers! let us know, glad to help out0 jj
 
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 11:41 AM
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Well folks, that's the thing. I wasn't joking my first post! I know nothing about audio!

I would like to take the chance to clarify something: from my first post it may sound like I am looking for the cheapest stuff available. That isn't the case. I will pay good money for good quality without hesitation.

But I don't know which brands are quality nor how much they cost! So I really can't come up with a budget.

What I meant by cheap is how I can get the best sound for the least money. I don't necessariliy need a sub, tweeter, etc. etc. Just the best sound for the least amount of money.

Would just a pair of new speakers help that much?

See I don't know all of the components of a car audio system nor how they interact with each other, what they do or how they work.

Sorry to sound so needy, but I would love to learn about car audio but don't know where to start!
 
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 03:43 PM
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Well, are you going to be doing the install yourself to try and learn about this?

If so, a set of coaxial speakers will be easiest to put in. The woofer and tweeter are mounted together. You just pull out the old speaker and drop in the new one. There are some good coaxial speakers out there with an expernal crossover (separates frequencies and sends the highs to the tweeter, and thow and mid notes to the woofer) Infinity makes some pretty nice Kappa series like that.
Most coaxials just have a high pass filter on the tweeter and arent the best for sound.


If you like to get creative, and want the best sound, a pair of good components is whats pretty much going to work the best. Components have an external crossover, which you need to mount somewhere like under the dash, under a seat etc. The signal from your amp goes to the crossover, and the high and low/mid frequencies are split up. Again, highs to the tweeter and lows/mids to the woofer. From the crossover you need to run separate speaker wire to the tweeter AND woofer.
The tweeter and woofer are also NOT mounted together, like a coaxial. You must mount the woofer in one spot, then find a place to mount the tweeter.

Components are a lot more time consuming to put in, but for the better sound quality, imaging etc that they offer over coaxials, I think its worth it to go with a pair of them.



A typical "speaker" is made up of a woofer and a tweeter, so actually, you WILL need tweeters to fill out the high notes in your sound. All speakers have tweeters to accomplish this.(except full range ones, which are generally used in home audio)

For the best 'bang for your buck' most internet, underground type companies are your best bet. Plus youll be cool if you go with them
With these companies, you are actually paying for a QUALITY PRODUCT instead of the name thats on it (like Rockford Fosgate, Kicker, Alpine etc, not saying they arent quality, just a lot of what you are paying for is the name thats written on it)

You can get good components for under 200 dollars. A good amp to push them will depend on the power you want to send the components (dependant on what they can handle), just say 300 ish dollars or so.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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Well, just an advise........don't get them JL comp speakers
they sucks.......and they are not cheap either
for the price, I expected a lot more out of them
I think you should try ebay to see the infinity perfects or if you do not want to do a lot of mods, then I think the Boston SL80 are very nice speaker for their price........JL amps are good but very pricey
 
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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Thank you very much for your time and suggestions Bartak1 (and everyone else). I really appreciate it!
 
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Bartak1


With these companies, you are actually paying for a QUALITY PRODUCT.....

I guess I should say you actually paying for the PRODUCT, and not the name on it. Im sure I offended/pissed a couple people a little with that comment :o Sorry.

No prob Todd.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 09:42 AM
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Check out www.edesignaudio.com, you could buy one of their package deals and get some pretty decent stuff (with a 3 year warranty). They have good package deals and sales on most of their products, so a lot of the prices you might see can vary with the online forum discounts, sales, etc...

You could get a pair of edi 6000 comps and a nine.4 and then just get some infinities for rear fill. Then you could pick up a pair of Kv2s subs, or just one, and then look for an amp. When buying subs with 4 ohm dvc and 2 ohm dvc options, the best way to get the most out of an amp is to wire down to a 1 ohm load, so if you go with a 2 sub set up get the 4 ohm dvc's and if you go with 1 sub get the 2 ohm dvc sub. And for subs most everyone uses a class D mono amp, and you will want one capable of handling a 1 ohm load.

Overall as an internet company ED propablly has the best bang for your buck.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by GA FOO 88

Overall as an internet company ED propablly has the best bang for your buck.

Bah, I dont know if I would say that. They do have a lot of sales etc, I guess Im just not a big ED fan though They are getting better though.

Only ED thing Id want is the Edead. Very cheap sound deadening, almost always on sale for a buck or less a sq. ft.


Id hafta suggest Rainbow Audio for cheap good comps. You can get killer comps for 130 bucks.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 04:21 PM
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Ya i know there subs arent all up to par with the rest of the internet companys, but they make some pretty nice amps for the price.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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Yeah, the Nine.1 is pretty cool, although its pretty much an Avionoxx. Still cool none the less. And like you said, for 325ish bucks, theyre hard to beat.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 04:55 PM
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Hey Toddzilla, another avenue to pursue would be www.crutchfield.com. I've ordered speakers from them from time to time, and they include very detailed instructions on removing door panels, speakers, radios, and then installing everything. Most of the time, they'll throw in speaker connectors that'll hook right into your wiring harness. They also supply literature if you're interested in learning more about audio systems, not the massive amount that you'd need to know to blast past 150 db's, but for someone who just wants a helluva upgrade for their truck, it'd be the ticket.

I've actually seen some component speaker setups that are the same size as the factory speakers, then mount the tweeter in the center (they are not coaxials). That would probably be the easiest way to install components, you'd have to mount the crossover somewhere, I've heard there's space under the power window switches to mount it (if you have power windows).

Good luck.
 
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