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Old May 25, 2003 | 10:14 PM
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Is the phoenix gold Octane-R any good? Which should I go with for rock music 10" or 12"?
Also what would be a good price to pay for it, I found one for $70?
And how many watts should I beging running to it.

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Old May 25, 2003 | 11:06 PM
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From what ive heard the 10s will respond faster than 12s therefor making them better for keepin up with rock. Im a moron when it comes to this but thats what ive heard about it anyway.
 
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Old May 26, 2003 | 09:30 AM
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neck, The answer to your question would have to be a generalization, at best. Not all 10's are the same in the way they respond , same with 12's. Phoenix Gold makes decent stuff. My advice is to LISTEN to subs and get the one you want that does what you want. One of the most important things is to use a sub in the proper application. A budget 10" may sound better in the correct enclosure than a $500 12", if the 12" isn't. And throwing a box together doesn't make it the correct enclosure. Buying an expensive piece doesn't make it sound correct if it's not used properly. And being able to say to everyone that you have the best stuff, doesn't make it sound the way it should, if it's used wrong. In my years of dealing with cars, trucks, audio, etc., I've seen the "brag factor" cloud peoples' good sense. It's like someone bragging about putting a big cam in their engine, when the truth is, they've reduced their power because the cam doesn't jive with other components. Same with audio to a point. If your system isn't planned as a whole, you will never get the most out of each component. Just my thoughts. Good luck!
 
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Old May 26, 2003 | 10:54 AM
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thanks for the info 97f250

I just ordered a Kenwood KDC-V7017 head unit, so should I try and go with a Kenwood amp and sub as well for the best possible sound. Or what brands would you recommend I listen to? Like I said I listen to alot of rock music.

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Old May 26, 2003 | 12:11 PM
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As 97F250 said, any system needs to be designed right. First you need to decide what size enclosure you are going to use. That will determine what subs can and can't be used. In addition to that will be sealed or ported? That will also determine what subs you can and can't use.
You don't have to stay with the same components, I wouldn't recommend the Kenwood subs, the amps are decent but with buying off the net you can get some awesome deals on much better amps. I do run Kenwood amps and am happy with them. I have however had them for over 10 years and since they still work can't justify spending $$$ on something that isn't broke.
I would use the search function and spend a few hours reading through the posts here. Many people have lots of good info.
Make the choice you want and for what fits your needs.
 
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Old May 26, 2003 | 11:26 PM
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Thumbs up thanks for the input guys

Got another question for you tho!
I have a 03 extended cab and usually have the back seats folded up to keep my bow and arrow and other equipment/stuff back there, so I was wondering where I could stash a sub.
Somone told me that there is room in the doors to put an 8 inch sub? Is this true? And can it be done with out cutting any of the truck.
Or I was thinking about having the amp under one seat and the sub under another (probably 10") Now can this be done without cutting or a seat lift, and will the sub push back on its self and distort or cause any rattle in the seat that would effect sound quality?

Thanks for any advice
 
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Old May 27, 2003 | 04:59 AM
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Like rugby said, you need to identify your possibilities as far as space available, what kind of enclosure, etc. If you are just learning about audio, pick everyone's brain that you can, BUT keep in mind that the system should ultimately be for your listening pleasure. The best way is to listen until you find something that will satisfy you in the long term. If you ask for other peoples' recommendation, you may be disappointed when you hear their choice. Get what you want. I can't stress that enough. As far as the 8's in the door, I personally think that's a bad idea. Doors do not make good speaker enclosures. A great way to make a quality sub sound like crap is to stick it in the wrong enclosure, like a door. Good luck and keep asking questions.
 
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Old May 28, 2003 | 12:34 AM
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Under the seat install of 1 10" can be done without any seat modifications.
8" in the door cannot be achieved without serious modification to the door.. not only cutting the hole out but also reinforcing the door to prevent rattles and such.
In the car audio world.. its usually NOT a good idea to stick with the same brand throughout the system. Each company has their own niche.. meaning 1 company that makes a great head unit may not may a good amp or sub.. and vice versa.
 
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