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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 06:54 PM
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Media coverage: Ft. Hood Massacre vs. Rep. Gifford Tragedy

Interesting article about how the media has been quick to blame Palin for Giffords shooting but wouldn't dare blame Islam for Ft. Hood.

Media Falsely Blame Palin for Giffords Shooting, But Refused to Talk Islam At Ft. HoodBy Lachlan Markay | January 09, 2011 | 14:26

The colossal double standard revealed in the past 24 hours at CNN is a microcosm of the larger media reaction to the tragic shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords yesterday. In short, the reporters jumping at the chance to use the shooting to score points against conservatives would in all likelihood be demanding patience and temperance if the potential for political cheap shots weren't available.

The Washington Examiner's Byron York recalled CNN's reaction to the Fort Hood shooting in a post Sunday. The cable channel "became a forum for repeated warnings that the subject should be discussed with particular care."

The important thing is for everyone not to jump to conclusions," said retired Gen. Wesley Clark on CNN the night of the shootings.

"We cannot jump to conclusions," said CNN's Jane Velez-Mitchell that same evening. "We have to make sure that we do not jump to any conclusions whatsoever."

"I'm on Pentagon chat room," said former CIA operative Robert Baer on CNN, also the night of the shooting. "Right now, there's messages going back and forth, saying do not jump to the conclusion this had anything to do with Islam."

The next day, President Obama underscored the rapidly-forming conventional wisdom when he told the country, "I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts." In the days that followed, CNN jouralists and guests repeatedly echoed the president's remarks.

"We can't jump to conclusions," Army Gen. George Casey said on CNN November 8. The next day, political analyst Mark Halperin urged a "transparent" investigation into the shootings "so the American people don't jump to conclusions." And when Republican Rep. Pete Hoekstra, then the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, suggested that the Ft. Hood attack was terrorism, CNN's John Roberts was quick to intervene. "Now, President Obama has asked people to be very cautious here and to not jump to conclusions," Roberts said to Hoekstra. "By saying that you believe this is an act of terror, are you jumping to a conclusion?"

In stark contrast to that reaction, here's how York sums up CNN's coverage of the burgeoning story in Tuscon:

After reporting that Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik had condemned what Dupnik called "the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government," CNN's Wolf Blitzer turned to congressional reporter Jessica Yellin for analysis. The sheriff "singled out some of the political rhetoric, as you point out, in creating the environment that allowed this kind of instance to happen," Yellin told Blitzer. "Even though, as you point out, this suspect is not cooperating with investigators, so we don't know the motive. President Obama also delivered that message, saying it's partly the political rhetoric that led to this. So that's why we want to bring up one of the themes that's burning up the social media right now. On Twitter and Facebook, there is a lot of talk, in particular, about Sarah Palin. As you might recall, back in March of last year, when the health care vote was coming to the floor of the House and this was all heating up, Palin tweeted out a message on Twitter saying 'common sense conservatives, don't retreat -- instead reload.' And she referred folks to her Facebook page. On that Facebook page was a list of Democratic members she was putting in crosshairs, and Gabrielle Giffords was one of those in the crosshairs."

Blaming Palin has become the media refrain of choice, despite the preponderance of evidence cited both at NewsBusters and elsewhere that Giffords's shooter was (a) crazy, and (b) of the radical left (to the extent that he had coherent political views).

NewsBusters also reported on CNN's eagerness to assign blame for the shooting on conservatives. It took mere minutes for them to find a few liberals to parrot boilerplate attacks against conservatives - devoid of any evidence, mind you, and before CNN could possibly have known the facts surrounding the shooting.

But not only did CNN and its guests urge viewers not to "jump to conclusions" after the Fort Hood shooting, in one segment, the channel went so far as to misquote an Army private - a victim of and eyewitness to the shooting - in order to cast doubt on his recollection that Major Hasan shouted "Allahu Akbar" before opening fire.

CNN was hardly the only media outlet demanding that Americans not "jump to conclusions" after the Fort Hood shooting. And the channel is far from the only one tacitly placing blame for the Giffords shooting at the feet of Sarah Palin or other conservatives.

But the channel does represent a striking cross-section of media reaction, especially given its insistence that it is a moderate, centrist alternative to its cable news competitors. CNN's attitude in this instance speaks volumes about the larger media approach to horrific events such as yesterday's. If Sarah Palin can be blamed, jumping to conclusions is just fine.

It's worth noting once again that the blame heaped on Palin since Saturday's shooting began before the details of the shooting were actually known, as Gabe Malor wrote:

Remember, all this liberal posturing about Sarah Palin's gun rhetoric took place before we knew anything about the shooter. In fact, at that time we didn't even know how many shooters there were. Giffords had been reported dead, then alive, then unknown. For a while it was unclear whether she had been the target or the federal judge who was also killed. This uncertainty about the facts went on for most of the afternoon. But liberals kept a steady faith: this is all Sarah Palin's fault.

How is it that people who endlessly protest that they are part of the "reality-based community" can't even wait for the facts before proclaiming the state of reality? The truth is, liberals were posturing about Palin's "extremist rhetoric" long before the shooting, so it doesn't matter what the facts on the ground are or how disconnected she ultimately is from the event. She's still at fault.

It's perhaps unsurprising that the rabid anti-Palin left would jump at the chance to attribute violence directly to something Palin said or did, facts be damned. But shouldn't we expect better from our news media, who, after all, proclaim themselves "objective" and politically neutral?
 
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 08:11 PM
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I agree, but I'll go one further. You are seeing how the media views our men and women that serve in the military. They place a higher value on elected liars-I mean politicians-than they do our soldiers. This falls in line with most peaceniks' hatred of the military.

I viewed some of Jared Loughner's vids on youtube yesterday. He was not a follower of the Tea Party.

But yes, if the Ft. Hood shooter had been a follower of the Tea Party or had been a Christian, it would still be covered 24/7 by Fox and CNN.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank S
I agree, but I'll go one further. You are seeing how the media views our men and women that serve in the military. They place a higher value on elected liars-I mean politicians-than they do our soldiers. This falls in line with most peaceniks' hatred of the military.

I viewed some of Jared Loughner's vids on youtube yesterday. He was not a follower of the Tea Party.

But yes, if the Ft. Hood shooter had been a follower of the Tea Party or had been a Christian, it would still be covered 24/7 by Fox and CNN.
Its ironic actually, he has been described by many of his acquaintences as liberal. what is weird is that why would someone who is relatively non-violent all of a sudden do something like this?
 
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 10:57 PM
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It's quite obvious now that the main stream media has a political agenda. They have shown us time and time again that they are more than willing to exploit a situation like this one, where many innocent people were killed, to advance their political agenda. It's really sickening, but a large portion of the American public is all to willing to believe what theyare being told.

The progressive left and the left leaning media have been waiting for violence to happen so that they could pin it on the "Tea Party". It's pretty convienient that these accusations have been made before we know any of the details. They know that even if they tell all out lies, it doesn't matter as long as they've planted the seeds. They have, and the lies will grow and prosper on the left. That is untill the facts can no longer be ignored. Then, the media will once again be exposed for what they are. A mouthpiece for the progressive left.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 06:03 AM
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Is the main stream media going to mention these words said by Mark Penn on Chris Matthews show Hardball:

Mediaite-Mark Penn Says Obama Needs ‘Similar Event’ to Oklahoma City to Reconnect with Voters

Are they going to conjure up a theory where this unstable shooter was actually trying to help Obama reconnect with voters? No, I doubt it. That would be counter to their narritive.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 07:07 AM
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it is all about the media creating news instead of reporting it. the spin started immediately.

there is already a bill being put together to limit the size of magazines.

the problem is all about political correctness. its ok to condem christians, palin, the tea party and the nra, but cant say anything about muslim, islamic extremists.

you watch obama try and score some points on this one.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 06bluemeaniexl
Its ironic actually, he has been described by many of his acquaintences as liberal. what is weird is that why would someone who is relatively non-violent all of a sudden do something like this?
Demonic possession: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...mans_yard.html
 
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 07:41 AM
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Are you going to hear about these comments in the main stream media?


CNN Opinion-Time for Obama to go 'gangsta' on GOP


Originally Posted by CNN Opinion-Time for Obama to go 'gangsta' on GOP
If there are members of your own party who stand in the way, such as Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Nebraska, then you also blast them and make them pay for acting so foolishly.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 07:40 PM
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Great article with many quotes: http://hotair.com/archives/2011/01/0...ocrisy-of-cnn/
 
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by thread-Congresswoman and many others shot in Arizona
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Originally Posted by Habibi
Feel free to post away wit, good luck with trying to match it up.

The silence is deafening.




Well, I'm not going to cut and paste the whole thing, as the list is very long. I'm at work so I don't have the time to look up this stuff myself, but Michelle Malkin has done a fine job of detailing some of the hate from the left. You'll have to follow the link:

Michelle Malkin-The progressive “climate of hate:” An illustrated primer, 2000-2010

I'm not sure if this is what you mean by "matching up" but this artical does a pretty good job of highlighting the hateful rhetoric from the left, with references, pictures and video.

Can you hear that?




Originally Posted by Barack Obama
“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.”
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmi...ife_fight.html

Originally Posted by Barack Obama
Get out there and “punish our enemies”
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/10/2...-your-enemies/

Originally Posted by Barack Obama
“I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/21/us...cs/21memo.html

Originally Posted by White House deputy chief of staff Jim Messina
“Punch back twice as hard.”
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/25891.html

Originally Posted by Barack Obama
I want to know “whose *** to kick”
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/06/0...e-***-to-kick/

Originally Posted by Barack Obama
“…I’m itching for a fight.”
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...---next-year/1

Nope, I'm not going to condemn these comments and "target" maps from the left either.

What and how people say things tells us a lot about them. Thoes of you who hate Palin seem to know alot about her. Well, above are the words of our beloved president. It tells us a lot about him.

If you think that Palins target map is what drives crazy people over the edge, what does that say about the democrats, the left, the progressives and Barack Obama?
 
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 08:42 PM
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The left are driven by hypocrisy. Plain and simple.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 07:24 AM
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"With our vote!"

YouTube-Flashback: Palin Answers Charges of Incitement in March 2010 ‘When We Take Up Arms, We’re Talking About Our Vote’


Don't let them change the conversation.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 08:00 AM
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No matter what this piece of human excrement does you will forever be incapable of denouncing her actions because hey, party line all the way.
Good for you.
You see my Canadian friend, I'm not big into condemning people. Not the ones you refer to as "excrement' and not THE ONE you enshrine. There is ZERO evidence that the "right" is inciting violence, nor is there any that the "left" is. You've posted examples of heated rhetoric from the right, and I've posted examples of heated rhetoric from the left. I don't believe that any of it is what caused this shooter to commit this horrendous act. I haven't seen any evidence that he was a big fan of Beck, Palin, Olberman or Obama.

Political discoures has been a part of this country from it's inception. It has been heated, at times to hightened degrees, many times over the past couple centuries. There may be examples from the past of political rhetoric that did drive a crime. There is nothing to show that Palin, the "Tea Party" or the "right" has done anything different than the progressive left has done, or that they are any more likely to incite violence. Some individuals have commited acts of violence but is it right to condemn an entire political party or movement for it? Should we condemn and entire religion for the Ft. Hood shooting?

Civility would be a good thing in our political discourse. It should not be brought about by legislation, or by edict. It's up to us citizens to bring it about. The medias rush to judgement and rampant false accusations bring us that much further from civility. Wouldn't it be more civil to he honest about the facts in cases like this?
 

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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 03:14 PM
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You see my Canadian friend, I'm not big into condemning people. Not the ones you refer to as "excrement' and not THE ONE you enshrine. There is ZERO evidence that the "right" is inciting violence, nor is there any that the "left" is. You've posted examples of heated rhetoric from the right, and I've posted examples of heated rhetoric from the left. I don't believe that any of it is what caused this shooter to commit this horrendous act. I haven't seen any evidence that he was a big fan of Beck, Palin, Olberman or Obama.

Political discoures has been a part of this country from it's inception. It has been heated, at times to hightened degrees, many times over the past couple centuries. There may be examples from the past of political rhetoric that did drive a crime. There is nothing to show that Palin, the "Tea Party" or the "right" has done anything different than the progressive left has done, or that they are any more likely to incite violence. Some individuals have commited acts of violence but is it right to condemn an entire political party or movement for it? Should we condemn and entire religion for the Ft. Hood shooting?

Civility would be a good thing in our political discourse. It should not be brought about by legislation, or by edict. It's up to us citizens to bring it about. The medias rush to judgement and rampant false accusations bring us that much further from civility. Wouldn't it be more civil to he honest about the facts in cases like this?
I have nothing to add except... BRAVO!!!
 
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