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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 01:12 PM
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Question Bannings and deleted threads

I dont want to start any *****...so please dont just delete this, or ban me...i did put in the right forum.

there was a thread in the lightning forum that had what I thought was a valid point, with some more than questionable photos. the thread was deleted...whatever, but someone cold atleast adress the point that BADAZZ had about the pics. If links to '****' cant be posted, then whats up with the photos? its not **** i know, but it is wrong.

I have never been in an argument with any moderator, but from an outsiders perspective, it only goes one way.

Theres been more bannings and delted threads here in the past few months than any other messga board ive seen in a long time. I know its not my site, and its free, so I can come and go as i please, but shouldnt the thoughts and opinions of the people who frequent this site count for something?

If im wrong, correct me.


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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 01:20 PM
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Actually, there have been far fewer suspension, bannings and deleted or moved posts in the past few months than ever before.

The reason BadAzz's post was deleted was answered in a thread started by DEIMATT in the Lightning forum. Please take a look.

Incidentally, I feel that threads like BadAzz516's tend to show more than just a little bit of hypocrisy.

Take a look at this thread:

https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...light=lemonade

In the thread, which has a link to photos Doug took at an event BadAzz516 explicitly asks Doug:
Nice pics just checked them out. But maybe 1 or 2 "Lemonade" shots only.
For him now to call out Doug (or anyone) pictures he deems inappropriate when just two years ago he was requesting them does not sound right to me.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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I'm an active member at several online forums. From what I've seen, F150online.com, Steve, and the other moderators are much more tolerant than most other forums. I don't know what specifically went down that you are referring too, but chances are the moderators did the right thing. they are pretty chill when it comes to most things. I haven't spent much time in the L forum though, that may be a whole different world.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 01:33 PM
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Its also ironic that Badazz has posted an inappropriate animated gif that was created based on a picture of a member here...

In summary - I do what I can to try to keep **** and member on member attacks out of the forums.

Many times the decisions are judgment calls. As I have said before I don't read every post and am guaranteed to miss some stuff. People always think that cause I missed something that I am allowing X and when I see something else and take action then I am picking on Member Y cause I don't like them... Its simply not that way.

In the case of a signature picture - I don't have rights to modify a signature so if the picture isn't removed after I send an email - I have no choice but to suspend the member to get the issue corrected.

Anytime a member posts material that they know is inappropriate that is in my mind telling me and Steve that they don't care about the rules or the effort we put into this site. In effect throwing us the middle finger. In my mind a suspension is mild for such blatant acts.

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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by webmaster
Actually, there have been far fewer suspension, bannings and deleted or moved posts in the past few months than ever before.

The reason BadAzz's post was deleted was answered in a thread started by DEIMATT in the Lightning forum. Please take a look.

Incidentally, I feel that threads like BadAzz516's tend to show more than just a little bit of hypocrisy.

Take a look at this thread:

https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...light=lemonade

In the thread, which has a link to photos Doug took at an event BadAzz516 explicitly asks Doug:

For him now to call out Doug (or anyone) pictures he deems inappropriate when just two years ago he was requesting them does not sound right to me.
Well that was 2 years ago and this site was a hell of alot different then. If my post was so wrong why didnt you leave it up for the members to decided for themselfs ?
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by Silver_2000_!
Its also ironic that Badazz has posted an inappropriate animated gif that was created based on a picture of a member here...

In summary - I do what I can to try to keep **** and member on member attacks out of the forums.

Many times the decisions are judgement calls.

In the case of a signature picture - I dont have rights to modify a signature so if the picture isnt removed after I send an email - I have no choice but to suspend the member to get the issue corrected.

Anytime a member posts material that they know is inappropriate that is in my mind telling me and Steve that they dont care about the rules or the effort we put into this site. In effect throwing us the middle finger. In my mind a suspension is mild for such blatant acts.

Doug
That pic was a yellow smiley. There are alot worse smilies i see get posted on there. It wasnt someones under age daughter . But whatever it doesn't matter anyway.
 

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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 01:41 PM
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Well that was 2 years ago and this site was a hell of alot different then. If my post was so wrong why didnt you leave it up for the members to decided for themselfs ?
Free free to post it again in the appropriate forum (this one) in a non-antagonistic and non-confrontational manner that is not in direct response to my request to NOT post such threads (with the flat-out promise of deletion) and it will remain for all to see.

But, just so I understand it correctly, which side of appropriate vs. inappropriate are you taking? Did your opinion of in appropriate change over the past two years since you posted in the thread linked above or did you simply post the thread that was deleted to be antagonistic over the recent suspension?

If enough people feel that the content you bring to our attention is inappropriate, then it will be removed, something that has always been the case around here.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 01:50 PM
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So i can post the exact thread that i posted in the lightning forums and you wont delete it ? And then i can make a link in the lightning forums so people see it ? Since no one really comes to this forum.

And as for a post from 2 years ago where i was asking for lemonade pics your point is? What you never changed your mind abotu something ?
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 01:56 PM
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My point: your post that was deleted wasn't to aid and inform, it was to be antagonistic and confronational and to bitch and gripe, in direct response to my request to not post such threads. Am I wrong? Based on your history on the site and timing of the thread, I doubt it very seriously.

Feel free to post it again in this forum. If users of the Lightning forum care enough about this issue they will find it here for discussion. If they don't care to venture outside of the Lightning forum to view our site announcements and discussions, that is their loss.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 02:02 PM
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The reason i posted this is like i said, it seems to be really one-sided. it might not be that way, but when posts get deleted and people get banned, theres alot of questions left, most of which do not get answered. Questions lead to people thinking what they will (most likely that favorites are being played)...

I personally dont care if **** is posted, it doesnt bother me, most of the things that have gotten people banned (that i know of (dont bother me)...but it does bother me when i feel that i could be banned at any moment for something that seems pretty harmless.

again this is all 3rd person...but it seemed that leeann was banned without any notice, with no chance for redemption. again, please correct me if im wrong, all im really after is clarification. i think thats all alot of people are after, but are going about it in the wrong way.

i think that baddazz knew the thread would be deleted, but was trying to get a point across (not trying to talk for you man). he got the point across to me.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 02:07 PM
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denny0328,

Perpetuating this shows me that you have not read all of the threads that are still around on this subject, so why do we have any obligation to open this up to debate to the whole community?

1) The user posted a link to **** - 100% against our rules - absolutely, positively no gray area whatsoever

2) The user was suspended, not banned.

3) We are under no obligation whatsoever to notify anyone or everyone why someone is suspended or banned. If people feel that they are not obliged to follow the rules they agreed to when registering to use our site, then we owe them no explaination.

4) Interpreting bannings, suspensions or deleted threads as favoritism has been shown over and over again to be hypocritical bias. Doug (supposedly pro-JDM) has been incorrectly blamed for deleting dozens of threads that I actually removed. (no Lightning, no JDM products, run a site for all F-150 owners, supported by many vendors)

Two words: PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

Why this person was suspended was obvious. Why the discussion on it is being perpetuated is not. It is not going to change my mind. She posted ****. She got suspended. Simple as that.

Incidentally, all of your questions on this topic have now been answered in this thread. If you need any further clarification, please feel free to email me at webmaster@f150online.com
 

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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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I like Leeann, sorry she's suspended for awhile, BUT rules are rules. This site is not a democracy and it probably wouldn't function well if it was one.
All this other post chatter is simply irrelevant. Thanks to Steve for the job that's been done, let's hope nobody else shows poor judgement in a moment of anger and get's suspended. Now, let's all play by the printed rules, and retreat to neutral corners, take a few deep breaths and get back to giving advice and personal stories about f-150's.

Big smile now, Doug might have a digital camera around....... do you think these pants make my butt look fat?


 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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Like I said, I was just asking for clarification. I have been gone for 4 days without any access to this site, so I did not get a chance to read the thread as it posted, otherwise I might have a better understanding on what happened. The other threads that are still around dont say much, and a few (for whatever reason) have been removed.

I never said you had any obligations to do anything, this is your site, your rules, your call. But from my side, it's nice to know what's going on. Opening it up to debate for the whole community is not what i said, but the lightning forum is your biggest forum, so I would think that you would give a little consideration to that.

I like this site, it's a great resource. That's why I post here and not over on NLOC. The whole JDM thing was a bad situation alltogether, and it was really obvious what happened with that, no questions there. All I'm saying is that maybe, if someone would have answered these questions before, myself and all the others asking wouldn't have to ask again and again.

Im not trying to change your mind. I Never asked you to.

4) I was trying not to interpret.

even though your reply seems pissed off, and i wasnt trying to **** you off, thanks for the reply anyhow
 
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 10:49 AM
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But from my side, it's nice to know what's going on.

are you the guy in your neighbourhood that has to know what everyone is up to?

Truthfully, it's none of our business why people are banned. It's not up to us. This is not a democracy. This is a commercial enterprise. Steve runs this place by selling ad space. If we can't behave, the advertisers walk and the place gets shut down.

Is it your expectation that Procter & Gamble personally notify you when they change the label on the Head & Shoulders?


This is none of our business. I enjoy these forums and I accept that there are rules involved. If Steve ever bans me for doing something stupid, then I probably deserved it. But as long as this site is non-subscription, we DO NOT have a vote.

Why do people not get this? This is not some socialst state. We're not voting for a President nor a legislature. It's a friggin' website. Get over it.
 
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