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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 11:12 AM
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Schitfuk. I picked up everything I needed, and tore it all down with barely enough time left in the day to get a ride to the machine shop to get the flywheel turned. While I was waiting for my ride, I set the old pressure plate next to the new one. Didn't match. Neither did the disk. Turns out I had an 11" afterall. No biggie, except I then had to hope and pray Napa had an 11" set in stock. They did, for $38 more, but the difference between the two is truly amazing. I compared the 10" set right next to the 11" set, and it was like comparing Playskool toys to a gnarly erector set. Like comparing a Ranger to an F350. Like comparing a toy to a tool.

Only problem I'm having is getting the damn pilot bearing out. Anyway, I'm getting ready to go try and put everything back together, and then spend a couple hours trying to bleed the slave.

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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 05:05 PM
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Should have started with the right parts to begin with.
I'm sayin' ain't nothin' like that 11 incher.

Good luck.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 05:47 PM
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Did you try the old grease trick on the pilot bearing? Fill the enter with grease then find a steel rod or punch that is just slightly smaller then the hole in the bearing. Stick it in and tap it with a hammer and it will hydraulically press the bushing out.

Good luck with the Napa clutch, i've had some problems with there pressure plates and throwout bearings.

-Jon
 
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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by Ford4ever
Did you try the old grease trick on the pilot bearing? Fill the enter with grease then find a steel rod or punch that is just slightly smaller then the hole in the bearing. Stick it in and tap it with a hammer and it will hydraulically press the bushing out.

-Jon
Just curious if this has actually ever worked for anybody? I have tried this countless times and it has never worked for me. I always end up using the pilot bearing puller.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2002 | 10:44 AM
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i agree with the napa clutch ive had two many probs with alot of there parts i put in a ford factory clutch and mine was 11` also and i also use a pilot bearing puller but never heard of that trick before ill try it on my next clutch job
 
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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 11:14 AM
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I've never done it myself but i've seen people that i work with do it, i think the rod has to be just the right size.

-Jon
 
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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 04:29 PM
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The grease method to me is the biggest time saving mechanical wonder I have EVER run into. When I did my clutch I borrowed one of those overpriced pilot bearing pullers and worked for over 2 hours trying to get the thing out. No matter how tight you made it the teeth that were supposed to pull the bearing out slipped every time and tore the inside rollers to shreads. It wasn't even budging one ioda. Then I talked to a friend and he told me the grease method. I went home and within 5 minutes I had the pilot bearing sitting in my hand!! You do have to hit it quite hard but don't be scared. I gave it a good wack with a minature sledge that weighted about 2 pounds a few times and it came right out. Those pilot bearing pullers are VERY cheap metal and I feel are the biggest waste of money. The gease method costs practically nothing.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 04:31 PM
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OH, i forgot to add, I used a good sized bolt that was as close as I could get to the inside bearing diameter then I wrapped it with tape so it was just that much tighter fitting. That way very little grease can come out.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 05:30 AM
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Yes, I tried the grease method. I have several boxes of Ford factory tools, including a steel clutch centering tool that was a perfect fit for the pilot, but it didn't work. Even with a single jack sledge, no dice. I did manage to shoot some hair-thin streams of grease past the rear end, but the bearing didn't budge. My puller ended up tearing the bearing apart, and I had to grind out most of it before it finally worked, several hours later.

Joy, fun.

My new problem is bleeding the slave. I have spent an hour on it so far, and finally couldn't stand rolling around in brake fluid anymore, so I took a couple days off. I will go at it again this morning.

I hate working on my own truck.

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~Chris
 
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Old Oct 2, 2002 | 06:10 PM
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its a bitch but keep trying youll get it
 
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Old Oct 2, 2002 | 09:13 PM
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Yeah, i've bled lots of slaves and fords slaves are the hardest. The manual says to pump the clutch like 150 times to build pressure, i've actually found that i need to pump it about 500 times (no exaggeration) to get the thing to work.

-Jon
 
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 01:13 AM
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If you need an extra hand I can run out there Friday night or this weekend....I feel like less of a man for only having a 10inch clutch...but size doesn't matter, it's how you shift it
 
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 01:30 AM
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Thats what the girl at the picnic said....
 
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 06:01 AM
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Originally posted by SPROCKET_X
If you need an extra hand I can run out there Friday night or this weekend....I feel like less of a man for only having a 10inch clutch...but size doesn't matter, it's how you shift it
SURE!!! You come out on Sunday and bleed the bastard for me, and I'll watch NASCAR and football.

I spent half the day today trying to get this thing bled. I spoke with people in the know, and came away with the understanding that the traditional methods will simply never do the job. I was educated on reverse pressure bleeding, and reverse vacuum bleeding. Spent hours trying both. Thought I made progress. Went for a test drive at 9:30, and it's the same as it was this morning. I have maybe a half inch of travel off the floor when the clutch engages. Totally sucks. It's also really jumpy when it engages at slow speeds, but that could be the adjustment, as well as the fact that I may have added too much grease to the concentric slave. I've never, ever seen one like that before.

I'll go back at it again tomorrow.

Damn. It looks like I'm going to be off work all week. I hate not knowing that in advance!

'nite.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 12:09 PM
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I know I'm not the profesional but could your slave gone bad?
 
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