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Old Apr 28, 2002 | 11:49 PM
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Advancing the timing

Does advancing the timing on these computer controlled trucks work, and if so how well and how many degrees should i adavnce it. On my 71 442 when me and my dad advanced the timing after we recieved a new distributor it makes a whole lot of difference in the low end is it the same for my truck.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2002 | 09:34 AM
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After reading some of the info here a couple of weeks ago I advanced mine on my '94 w/5.0 to 14 BTDC after taking the spout out and its made a hell of a difference-just wished I had learned about it sooner
 
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Old Apr 29, 2002 | 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by Injun Bill
After reading some of the info here a couple of weeks ago I advanced mine on my '94 w/5.0 to 14 BTDC after taking the spout out and its made a hell of a difference-just wished I had learned about it sooner
what octane gas are you running with that timing?
 
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Old Apr 29, 2002 | 08:30 PM
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It makes a difference and it's free. I couldn't find my timing mark, I found the scale but couldn't find the thingy to line it up with so I turned it until it pinged when I stomped it then backed it off just a little. I towed 2000lbs this weekend w/no pinging under load. It seems to even sound a bit deeper. But when it would lightly ping the first time I advanced it WOW. It would jump when I floored it. I am running 89oct gas. It runs better and now that I'm through towing I'm going to see if I can get a little more advance out of it.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2002 | 10:34 PM
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Well, remember that you can also time an engine by vacume. Just simply find the point of highest vacume.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 07:14 AM
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i advanced mine to 16° . i no longer have a ping
 
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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 12:41 PM
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Donate,

On my '95 I can run 14 degrees year round like reg 87 octane. In the summer slightly more, but when we get the winter gas I will get a slight ping if I am at more than 15.

Haven't really hit the limits using the higher octanes, but at least 16-17 degrees BTFC on my truck using 93 octane. My truck seems to run a little smoother, and a little cooler on the 93. Performance isn't increased much SOTP over the reg gas, at least not that I have noticed.

Make sure to turn off your radio and anything else and listen for a ping. It only takes a very slight ping to cause the truck to pull out timing. In the case of the later trucks the computer will "learn" to use a less agressive timing if this occurs often. The ultimate goal would be to reach a point of max timing without a ping ever happening.



Injun Bill,

Glad to see you got good results. 14 degrees is also where I ended up on my '95. I played with 93 for a while but figured if I burn premium I may as well get a good chip and be done with it. My off idle response is much better with the advanced timing.
 
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Old May 1, 2002 | 04:09 PM
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Since I had to pull the chip in my 300, I have the base timing set to 16 degrees advanced, and I use 87 octane.

Ford4Fun is correct about using a vacuum gauge to set your timing. That's how we always used to do it at the track. For you carb guys, the idle mixture can be set the same way.

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Old May 1, 2002 | 08:18 PM
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you sea level people suck, I can't take my timing near that far without ping.
 
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Old May 1, 2002 | 10:56 PM
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Really? I've never lived at or tuned for high altitude, but I do know that less octane is needed. I would think that would enable you to run more advance than at sea level.

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Old May 2, 2002 | 12:05 AM
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sea level you say lol im 8 feet below GOTTA LOVE NEW ORLEANS
 
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Old May 3, 2002 | 01:21 PM
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Chris,

Is the stock 300 setting 10 degrees BTDC? Maybe the extra ratio in the tranny is helping some as well. 16 would cause a ping in my 302... been there done that briefly!
 
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Old May 4, 2002 | 03:03 PM
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Yeah, stock is 10 degrees advanced. Maybe it's the gas around here. I have a friend who lives in Ojai (about 15 miles inland from Ventura), and his very built and modified Saleen Mustang supports 18* of advance on 87 octane, and 22* with 91 octane. I know how hard that is to believe, but it's true.

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Old May 4, 2002 | 09:10 PM
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hey chris . does you mac support symbols? if it does try holding the alt key and pressing 0321456 on the side keypad . that should give you °
 
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Old May 4, 2002 | 09:48 PM
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