Welcome.....check your messages, I sent you some pics and a link.

 

yep just checked it out lots of intresting parts and ideas

 

Personally, I could care less (maybe I could, if I really tried). I was more concerned w/ other people. Quite a few of the participants on this forum are high schoolers, with their first truck. Although Beastly didn't skip a beat over it. I seems to me, the world is rude enough as it it w/o jumping on the bandwagon! Mutual respect it a good thing. If your not thrilled w/the message don't berate the messenger. That just my "opinion" and you know what they say about those. I still like my 87' bumpers, and now that I know the type of bumpers you assumed we must have known you were referring to, they do sound like a good idea, especially if they're custom, therefore unique.

 

I already apologized for having incorrectly judged you....what more would you like me to say? And I think we all know about your 87 XLT....you only mentioned it 4 times in just a few hours.

Sorry I didn't clarify about what I want my bumpers to look like.....I've been discussing it a lot with many different people. I am going to build my truck to look like...and perform somewhat like, a trophy truck...or short course off road truck, the likes of which can be seen on the LOORS and TORC races. It can also be called a prerunner, a term I have been throwing around quite a bit.....and I hope isn't becoming a vague and general term for modifying a truck. There are many companies that specifically design and build "prerunner" bumpers. They are mostly a single tube design that replaces the stock bumper, and often incorporate a skid plate on the lower part of the front bumper. They are very strong and in my opinion, offer more protection than the factory bumpers.


Also...I don't think Beastly had anything to do with our little argument, so I'd leave him out of it. He had a simple request, and I responded to it the best I could.

Now would you like to get back on topic? Maybe offer some useful information? Is your 87 XLT lifted? Is it 4wd or 2? Do you have any experience with the Twin I-beam suspension on these things? Have any offroad lighting? I'm thinking about mounting some Hella's behind the grill...

 

As I mentioned in post #5, this is not my forte. I've lowered a Porche, but never raised an F-series. Now that our pissing match has run it's course, I truly wish I had some helpful tidbit for you. If you ever come back with an emissions/driveabilty problem, I'll give it by best shot! I'm going to go put some dry shoes on now...........

 

Just a few random comments:
First, a table of pipe dimensions can be found here:

http://academic.evergreen.edu/projec...abric/pipe.htm

As you can see there is very rarely any dimension on a piece of pipe which corresponds to its nominal size.

Second, with regard to mounting lights behind the grille: don't do it. The grille will interfere with the beam to the point of rendering the additional lights nearly useless. You want nothing in the way of the projected beam. Foglights (real foglights with diffuser lenses and sharp vertical cutoffs) should be mounted as low as possible, like in protected pockets in the bumper. Driving lamps should be mounted as high as possible but below line of sight. The overhead light bar mounting is only really useful where it can get the beams above extremely heavy dust and can create some unwanted glare in most other conditions. This is due to the types of lenses used, the weather in which each is used and to how the human eye reacts to the light patterns.

There's lots of good info on lighting on Hella's various international web sites and you'll find lots of good lighting tech at

http://www.rallylights.com/

Third, while fabricating your own bumpers may be an interesting project, you're re-inventing the wheel. There are lots of sources for bumpers out there in a wide variety of styles. Here's one, there are many, many more

http://www.buckstop.biz/

 

Thanks StrangeRanger!

 

Here is the bumper I have for my truck.


Hefty fabworks

http://fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=156568

Ladder bars......buy some DOM and Heims if you wanna go cheap or Johnny Joints.

-Curtis-