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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 11:52 PM
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uh oh!!! New sound came up!

I was behind where i work loading up some garbage bags into back of my truck to drive down to the dumpster when i heard this kind of knocking noise.. or like you know when you shift from park to drive.. that kinda noise, sounding like something was loose in my engine/under my truck. I think nothing of it. Then when I get home on the way.. it's continual. I get by my front left wheel and listen and can easily hear it.. and my engine sounds really grumbley... What can this be caused by? Transmission? not sure. Also why would the engine sound grumbley and shakey.. its the 4.9L 6cyl on f150 XL short bed stand cab 2wd with e4od tranny. please help!
 
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 12:22 AM
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get under the hood and listen. make sure it is coming from there. if so check to see if it is worse when warm or cold. then get back to me with that info.

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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 01:47 AM
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ima take it up to firestone to let them check it out.. if they say its something major.. i will take it somewhere else to also tell me if its same thing without them knowing what Firestone said. hope its just a 100 or 200$ part needs replacement or something :\
 
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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It could be allot of things. maybe a lose idler pulley or something hopefully.



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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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Before driving it ANYWHERE (including letting it sit & idle), check the oil & coolant levels.

 
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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steve thanks for the help.. too bad I already took it to the Firestone.. Turns out it was the water pump. the bearing was just messed up in it and it was leaking water he said i was really lucky to find it early or i could had my engine overheat and blow a cylinder or cam... that was about 500$ then I also put them to change my break fluid b/c it was dangerously high contaminants and also do radiator flush and new coolant and new coolant lines and hoses... total is 640 and change. I figure, if the hoses and stuff lasted that long 120k miles... I did a good job taking care of it and this just ganna help it and fix all the crap. omg omg omg omg omg OMFG OMMMMMMMMMMMFG I just found out.. my truck is not a 1996... ITS A 95! I bought it from carmax as a 1996.. ITS A 95! (exact same truck but OMG) It was made in 1995 of June... if it was made in august of 1995 it would be a 96 version but it wasnt.. oh well. 95 f150 is wut i got
 
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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hay slow down there a little Buzzsaw. you could have done all of that with our help for 150 dollers or less. a good garage I dont think would charge more than 300 even at the ford dealer it would not be that much. I would be real careful about that place where you went. I think I would even need to go back and see how they justify that charge for that work.

I am outraged buy this dose any one know of any place that charges 500 dollers to change a water pump on a 6 cyl truck and then have the nerve to charge 150 more for changing the hoses that are already off frome removing the WP. how many hours dos it take to change the WP? I get 1.5 here from my customers and I would have goon 2 with the flush. I would not have charged anything to Chang the hoses. maybe .5 more to presher bleed the brakes+ materials. I charge 30 per hour flat rate for shop work so it would have been 75 labor and about 90 for parts and shop supplies. and if it was a 18 year old kid with a sad face and I wasn't busy I would have knocked 20 bucks off of that. but I guess that is why I will never be a wealthy man, but I sleep well at night and I have a lot of good friends.


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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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They are NOT exactly the same - there are MANY differences. If CarMax sold it to you as a '96 & it's not, they've defrauded & overcharged you. Enter your VIN here or here (both official Ford sites). Is it EEC-IV (diagnostic connectors under the L hood hinge) or OBD-II (connector under the glove box)?
 
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 12:09 AM
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nvm, the guy at firestone is an idiot and didnt know what he was talking about.. i entered my vin and its a 1996... carmax was right. firestone guy was wrong.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce R Leech
and if it was a 18 year old kid with a sad face and I wasn't busy I would have knocked 20 bucks off of that. but I guess that is why I will never be a wealthy man, but I sleep well at night and I have a lot of good friends.




he knocked off 20$ and i did have a sad face.. but im only 17
 
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 01:58 AM
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What exactly are "dangerously high contaminants" in brake fluid?

How do you determine what is acceptable, and what is too high? And what is "Dangerously" too high.

Do they have a lab there in the Firestone shop for determining this?

And the best question is this: How do you get contaminants into a closed system if there are no other problems in the system?

Apparently, I don't know much about brakes. Well, it HAS been ten years since I was certified.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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Hey buzzsaw - with the help of your Haynes manual, a half deccent set of tools, and the very knowledgeable people here, you should be able to tackle these types of troubles yourself. Especially the routine mainenance items. Your truck will eat you out of house and home if you keep taking it to Firestone. Save your $$ for those 17 yr old Houston hotties (you'll need it!).
 
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 07:56 AM
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Duuuhh. I just read your next thread... :o
 
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 12:16 PM
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I charge 30 per hour flat rate for shop work---- Bruce R Leech
are you for real?!?!? round here itis between 75 and 100 for mechanical labor and 44 for body labor!!!! and i think that the body labor is too low!
... total is 640 and change---buzzsaw714
did they give you some vasoline??? or just rawdog and dirty?? i think the last water pump i had to buy was like 50 bucks, and they are not too difficult to change, just get you some beer(root beer in you case )and ask these guys questions, we wont steer you wrong
 
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by fbama73
What exactly are "dangerously high contaminants" in brake fluid? How do you determine what is acceptable, and what is too high? And what is "Dangerously" too high. Do they have a lab there in the Firestone shop for determining this?
Diagnostic equipment is getting cheaper, and it's not that hard to measure impurities in liquids. Turnaround time on sending it to a lab can be as little as a few days.

But I think you're right - I think they're just BSing him about the "contamination". It's probably just dark from natural moisture absorption, braking temperatures, & aging rubber.
 
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