ok , so here is the boat i am in, and hopefully some one else has already been trough this....my 5.0 in my 88 spun 3 main bearings so i puled it out and while i had it out i decided to go ahead and do it up right so i put a big cam in it and a few other go fast goodies, switched it over to mass air and so on and so on......well it has been in the truck for about 3 weeks how and i havent heard a heart beat yet!! when i got it all plugged up and bolted down went to turn it over and- click! that was it so i was thinkin not enough power in the battery to turn it over ... so i steal the battery out of her bronco and the same -click.. nothing ,..well must be the starter right? the solinoid is clicking so i had the starter checked and it tested fine(and it is a sob it get in and out with full length headers)well i thought the solinoid wasnt getting enough power to the starter and i changed it after i fell apart in my hand when taking the cables off it hooked it all back up and ...click,no vroom....so i pulled the plugs out to make sure i had 0 compression and still nothing and i have tried turning it over with my big 3/4 ratchet on the balancer bolt and it wont budge... do you think i got too much silicone in the main seal or something,....no way thats gonna keep it from spinning. and oh yea it turned freely on the engine stand... any comments are appreciated

 

What kind of tranny do you have?

 

aod (i think thats what its called) it is a non electric overdrive and 4X4 all manual

 

You're right - no amount of silicone on a crank seal would stop the starter. Pull whatever it takes to get access to the ring gear & try to turn it with a prybar. If it won't turn now, it's gonna have to come back out. Did you install the torque converter into the trans BEFORE you bolted the trans to the engine? Was there at least 1/8" gap between the flexplate & the TC?


As to the clicking, I'm betting you didn't wire the relay correctly. The small LB/R wire goes on the small "S" terminal. The starter wire ALONE goes on the rear large post. EVERYTHING else goes on the front large post.

 

the new starter relay or solinoid(i dont know why they call it a solinoid it IS actually a big relay)any way acts exactly the same as the old one and it was an original motorcraft ...and as far as the torque converter goes....i bolted it to the flexplate on the hoist and lowered it into the truck lined it up so it would slide on and bolted the bellhousing to the block.... all that stuff is the oem stuff off the truck from the factory so i didnt think there would be fittment problems ....but i have been wrong before how would i check for a gap now?? i have the access cover off so i can get to the teeth and the torque converter drain bolt,... how bad did i screw up ???

 

ALWAYS fill the convertor and set it into the tranny, and then lower the engine in, and bolt the block to the tranny. Then and only then do you bolt the torque convertor to the flexplate. You've likely got it pinched, and the TQ isn't seated all the way in. You need to pull the engine forward, unbolt the TQ from the flexplate, and insert it all the way into the trans (and follow the rest of the instructions above). Hopefully you didn't damage the pump.

 

Sorry, not the way to do it. You could be lucky and just have to put it together in the right order, or your pump/ect could be screwed.

Adrianspeeder

 

today i talked to one of the older techs at work and he said the same thing you did..... so i know what i am doin for thanksgivin!... hope fully tomorrow i will get a pulse on the old bird and a pic or two of the job with the mass air and all.thanx guys

 

At best, you scarred the pump. At worst, you punched the pump thru the front of the transmission &/or crushed the TC. Never ever ever ever do that!

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i guess it is confirmed....i am a moron

 

It's aight, just dont do it again.

Adrianspeeder

 

Well...



You did move from NC to CO.

 

yea ya yea i did move out here for her school and she graduated so we are plannin on movin back...but my trucks gotta be runnin first.
ok so i pulled the motor back out and slid the trans back and pulled out the converter looked at it and it looked fine along with the trans...so now i am goin back together with it and i connot seem to get the trans to slide forward so it fits to the motor with out being tightened with the bolts now i am wondering if the converter slid back down the imput shaft and is puting itself in a bind again ..so here is a quick question for those who might know..when the converter is in the trans fully should the bolts hit a strait edge if you put it flush on the end of the engine mating surface of the tranny ... i wouldnt think so ...how far off base am i?.. cuz i am thinkin the converter slid back off a little like it was in the first place.

 

ok... i bet i know what happened .. i bet when i was turning the motor over to line up the flexplate and the converter it slid out of the pump...can i put a little pressure on the converter and turn the motor over untill it falls into place or will that not work?

 

You can try, but I'll be surprised if that works. There should be at least an 1/8" clearance from a straight edge when it's seated.