HELP ASAP with possible battery/cable problem?
Could be the starter with a short to ground, did it melt the cables or anything? I thought of the grounds as the extra resistance caused by the corrosion would cause the starter to draw more amps through the (+) cable and possibly cause it to heat up.
I sure hope it is the cabel isntead of the starter that would be a lot cheaper. Is there a starter relay or anything? The smell that I was trying to describe was much stronger around the starter.
I am also trying to figure it out and it just upsets me more and more. I am gonna ask my roommate to pay for half of this ****.
I am also trying to figure it out and it just upsets me more and more. I am gonna ask my roommate to pay for half of this ****.
Originally Posted by TheGrayt1
Yea I did that first checked grounds and terminals and cleaned them all. I am pretty sure the last thign is the starter but I will ahve to wait until tomm to egta new one. This has pissed me off greatly. Any other possible ideas of what it could be?
Reminds me of a funny story...
A little over 20 years ago, I took an engine rebuilding class at the local cc in preperation for my ASE exam, and the instructor showed us the best way (in his opinion) to "bench test" a starter. Place the starter in an extremely strong vise (in this case, the vise was mounted to a manhole cover, and set on the ground), and attach a battery to it via a remote starter switch. While someone else switches it on, try and stop it by jamming a 2x4 into the gear. If you can stop it, it's no good. lol.
Seriously. He made us each try it. lol.
Originally Posted by BigRigTech
Could be the starter with a short to ground, did it melt the cables or anything? I thought of the grounds as the extra resistance caused by the corrosion would cause the starter to draw more amps through the (+) cable and possibly cause it to heat up.
That's why I put the emphasis on replacing the cable. Still, something is missing from the story.
TheGrayt1-
Did you attach the cables before or after you started your truck? Did you remove them right away after his Jeep started?
I did buy a starter selonoid, si that the same as a relay?
Here is how it went down my car was running attached cables to mine and then his jeep and let it sit for a minute then his started and about 30 secs after I hear the whien and then the smeel.
Here is how it went down my car was running attached cables to mine and then his jeep and let it sit for a minute then his started and about 30 secs after I hear the whien and then the smeel.
FYI: You have a starter relay, which is what you replaced. A starter solenoid is mounted on the starter. The difference between a relay and a solenoid is a relay doesn't have a movable core. It is really just a switch. A solenoid has a movable core which then moves something else. When a starter relay gets power, it connects the battery with the starter solenoid, mounted on the starter. The solenoid then moves the driven gear out in line with the flywheel. 
For future reference, always disconnect the jumper cables as soon as the other vehicle starts.

For future reference, always disconnect the jumper cables as soon as the other vehicle starts.
now I know that, but seriously should it burn up a starter or cable?
Just so I am clear the onyl things that it possibly can be are the starter selonoid, starter, or the cable from the relay to the starter?
Just so I am clear the onyl things that it possibly can be are the starter selonoid, starter, or the cable from the relay to the starter?
It is probably either your starter or the cable leading to the starter, since you said the smell was strongest there, but it could be several things, including the ground cable and the cable between the battery and the solenoid. Start with having the starter bench tested. If it were mine, I would replace the cables anyway. Your problem is not with the signal from the key for it to start, the problem is either the voltage from the battery is unable to reach the starter, or the starter is damaged, and is unable to use the voltage from the battery. The problem lies between the battery and the starter, but remember that the circuit has to be complete in order for it to work, so the ground must be good as well.
Thanks hopefully it is one of the two cables instead of the 120 dollar starter. I really dont see how the starter would be fried while it is running? PS how does the red starter solenoid detach from the starter it was kind of dark when I got the starter bolts off and could not see it clearly. Thanks for all the help!!!
The cable should be bolted on with a small hex head screw (like a tiny bolt). There may be a rubber boot covering the end of the cable, where it's attached. If there is, just pry it up, and slide it back on the cable.
Update!!!!
took the starter off and it was bad when I had it tested. Gto a new one and installed it and it starts better than ever. So overall witha new battery, relay, and starter it cost me about 180 bucks, but my roommate agreed to pay fro half so I got all new parts for about 90 bucks. Thanks guys for all your help!!!!
took the starter off and it was bad when I had it tested. Gto a new one and installed it and it starts better than ever. So overall witha new battery, relay, and starter it cost me about 180 bucks, but my roommate agreed to pay fro half so I got all new parts for about 90 bucks. Thanks guys for all your help!!!!


