changing gears
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changing gears
i am getting ready to soon change my gears. i know i have 8.8 rear and i find lots of different brands for it (is ford racing going to be the least amount of measuring backlash etc). but what do i need for the front? is the TTB just a dana 44? i am not sure. and do i need an install kit? i have the worst raito ever with 3.08 and i have 33" tires and want 4.10s. i have read that a basic limited slips are weak and the clutches wear out. anyone recommend a good locker. i dont want to spend that much money on one, but it would be cheaper than having to replace something cheap i suppose. cant wait to get these crappy things changed out, i get like 12mpg and i used to get nearly 18mpg before my lift and tires, so i hope to get at least 15-17 with the gear swap, not to mention getting all my power back.
thanks for the help
thanks for the help
Last edited by 78ihs2; 11-22-2005 at 09:47 PM.
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Be ready to pull out the Dana 44, because I'm told the 4:10 pack won't fit. I replaced mine with a Dana 60. As for L/S, I have been happier than a tick on a dead dog since I had mine put in. I been wheelin every chance I get, and I've easily chewed up some pretty technical trails It's also much more fun on road. I considered a locker too, but I'm glad I saved the $$. If the L/S pack lasts a couple of years, I'd gladly swap it out, and thank it for it's service.
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i found out my question.. have to change the carrier for the front when going 3.90 and higher, i think it was.
next question i didnt find was where can i get the carrier? will any gear selling vendor have it? like ford racing, i saw those where the best to go with because they use all the factory tollerances?
next question i didnt find was where can i get the carrier? will any gear selling vendor have it? like ford racing, i saw those where the best to go with because they use all the factory tollerances?
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possibly me and my brother, my bro is a mechanic, but hasnt done much with diffs. so i am kind of leaning twards taking it somewhere... which sounds like it will cost a lot to have this all done.
if i am paying to have this all done, would it be worth it to just go with 3.73s to save the hassle of changing the carriers. its not exactly what i want, but if it means several hundred dollar difference than i would settle for it. all said and done i would not like to spend more than 1000 on this whole project. is that number even possible? to get 4.10s and a limited slip in the rear with out doing it myself?
thanks for the replys
if i am paying to have this all done, would it be worth it to just go with 3.73s to save the hassle of changing the carriers. its not exactly what i want, but if it means several hundred dollar difference than i would settle for it. all said and done i would not like to spend more than 1000 on this whole project. is that number even possible? to get 4.10s and a limited slip in the rear with out doing it myself?
thanks for the replys
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You need a new carrier in the rear for the limited slip. If you wanted a locker there are drop-in units that fit your open carrier. You still have to tear everything apart to change the gears and you still have to know how to set up the R&P. In the front, you only need to change carriers if you go to a 4.10. The D44 (front) diff is a very different design from the 8.8 (rear.)
$1000 probably won't quite cover it. Figure $200 or thereabouts for each gearset, $250 for the LS carrier, $100 per axle in installation parts, maybe $200 for the new front carrier and yiu're at $850 without the labor
$1000 probably won't quite cover it. Figure $200 or thereabouts for each gearset, $250 for the LS carrier, $100 per axle in installation parts, maybe $200 for the new front carrier and yiu're at $850 without the labor
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Hope you're sittin down, bro.
I shopped 2 reputable 4x4 shops in our area, and the lower of the 2 estimates got the work. Final tab was just over $1900 . This included new housing for front, new 4:10 ring and pinion sets for both, Eaton L/S pack for rear, 1 new axle bearing, and other misc parts. Labor up front was twice the labor for the rear. It took a week to get it back, too. I blew the original 3:73 rear, so for me, it was either waste money on the original that I was planning on upgrading anyway, or get it done in one painful shot.
I shopped 2 reputable 4x4 shops in our area, and the lower of the 2 estimates got the work. Final tab was just over $1900 . This included new housing for front, new 4:10 ring and pinion sets for both, Eaton L/S pack for rear, 1 new axle bearing, and other misc parts. Labor up front was twice the labor for the rear. It took a week to get it back, too. I blew the original 3:73 rear, so for me, it was either waste money on the original that I was planning on upgrading anyway, or get it done in one painful shot.
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I am speaking from experience when I say this - if you plan on running 35" tires or larger DO NOT get the limited slip. I chewed up 1 eaton ls, 1 auburn ls and numerous spider gears. I have had no problems with my detroit lockers. As for the gears the front is a Dana 44 and it will need a modification for the 4.10s - Randy's Ring and Pinion is where I ordered my parts from and they are extremely helpful and knowledgeable. Be ready - because it is expensive, but well worth it.
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sounds like i need to call around and check prices... from what you guys are saying it will be twice as much as i would like to pay.
for another option, 3.90s are the biggest i can go with out changing the front carrier? would it be worth it to get those rather than 4.10? it would save some work in the front. essentially i would be looking at the same for the rear, getting a new carrier and a limited slip.
would this cut down on the price enough to make it worth it and would i still see enough performance gain.
thanks for the input
for another option, 3.90s are the biggest i can go with out changing the front carrier? would it be worth it to get those rather than 4.10? it would save some work in the front. essentially i would be looking at the same for the rear, getting a new carrier and a limited slip.
would this cut down on the price enough to make it worth it and would i still see enough performance gain.
thanks for the input
Last edited by 78ihs2; 12-05-2005 at 11:49 PM.
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