I went to Gulfport Dragway in Mississippi and it is an okay track. Track prep isnt good at all, and if oyu didnt have slicks, you had no chance of hooking up. I got 3 runs in, I could have done more, but I hot lapped the 2nd so I let it cool down for the third and lowered my tailgate. Well this is how the runs went.

Run 1:
60 FT - 2.4156
330 FT - 7.0205
1/8 ET - 10.8967
1/8 MPH - 63.74
1000 ET - 14.2530
1/4 ET - 17.1623
1/4 MPH - 77.16

This run was right after I got off the interstae, like a 60 mile drive and I went right through tech and went and ran, I just mashed the gas. I didnt stall it up any and got a decent launch with a little wheel spin. The truck pulls hard through the 1/8th, then it is a dog from there to the end.

Run 2:
60 FT - 2.4468
330 FT -7.0802
1/8 ET - 10.9816
1/8 MPH - 63.35
1000 ET - 14.3519
1/4 ET - 17.2732
1/4 MPH - 76.97

This time, I hot lapped it right back onto the truck and the staging lanes were clear, so I basically went within 3 min of my first run. This time I stalled it up to about 1500 and left with more wheelspin, and from there on, the truck didnt have what it did the first run.

Run 3:
60 FT - 2.5123
330 FT - 7.1324
1/8 ET - 11.0256
1/8 MPH - 63.46
1000 ET - 14.3714
1/4 ET - 17.2747
1/4 MPH - 77.26

Alright, for this run I let the truck cool down for about 20 min, and now the sun was down. I lowered my tailgate to see if it would help my ET, and either it made the difference or the cool down time, or a combination of both, the truck pulled harder. Since I spun on run 2, I decided I was only going ot stall it to 1000 rpms and when I left, I had the most wheelspin of any run, and I was slower all the way through the 1/8 the because of it, but then as you can see form the mph, the truck had more pep, and I think if I would have gotten a good launch, I could have pulled a 17.0?? or a 16.9??, but the track prep is bad, and I cant believe tha tit was like this. I mean I can hook better on most streets than I could here, but oh well. At least I have an idea of what the truck can do.

On al lthe runs, the truck pulls pretty hard through 1st and 2nd, but once it hits 3rd, its like I am just cruising down the street LOL It hits 3rd at 3500rpms, and it stayed there the entire way through 3rd, I know the gears will ehlp this problem alot, plus it will give me better everything, and I think with the Limited Slip, I will be able to get a 2.1 60ft.

Intel486 was there and I think his best was a 17.4??, but he finished at 81mph, and he had trouble launch also. A friend with a Tacoma also got a 17.4?? and one of his friends with a Tacoma S-Runner with a TRD blower was running like 15.3s, but he had some real trouble launching, because he has no LS and it is a stick, I think he could knock off mids 14s. Well it was fun and after a few more mods, Ill be back so that I can hopefully get around a 16.5.

 

I can't imagine the weather down there in LA helping much also...humidity kills....

 

What do you expect? It's a truck.......if you want speed get a stang. All the mods in the world aint gonna beat it.
Trucks are for work and playing in the mud.
HAHA

 

tell that to the lightning owners, see what kind of responses you get

beastie,
not bad at all, with some gears and a LS you should be able to bring down those 60 ft times (and even more so with better tires)and your et should definitely be in the 16's (provided track prep isnt TOO bad). either way those numbers arent bad at all!

 

I was happy with the times I pulles, I wish I would have hit a 16, but that is for next time. Thanks Donate.

wowbam, dude trucks are better anyways, you know how many stangs they had out there, it isnt fun watching them run, its a whole lot more fun watching trucks run. Also they had an 03 L out there and the besy he could get was a 13.98, and he was at No Problem Raceway Park, the week before and he was pulling 13.5s with hottere temp and more humidiity. That tracks hooks, and that is where I am going next time.

 

Those sound like some pretty good times considering the conditions.

 

Be happy with those times. The last run I made in my 96 std. cab short bed 300/E4OD/3.73LS:
RT - .505
60 FT - 2.572
330 FT -7.490
1/8 ET - 11.624
1/8 MPH - 59.06
1000 ET - 15.186
1/4 ET - 18.296
1/4 MPH - 73.43

No tire spin but still no launch. The automatic and the stock converter just strangle it off the line. The 3/4 ton Dodge 4X4 Diesel in the other lane KILLED me. He had a .917 RT so I thought I had him. He turned a 17.793 and took me by .091. It wasn't pretty. Then he shows me the full house Gale Banks kit he's got under the hood. 600+ ft-lbs. of torque. He probably could have turned a 17.8 towing my truck.

With the bigger gears and LS to go with your reworked converter you should get about 0.2 better short times and bout 0.4 in the 1/4. Don't expect your trap speed to improve much, it probably won't. You'll just get there sooner.

 

Yeah that is just what I was expecting. I just want to get a 2.1-2.2 60ft and I will be more than happy. Also I think if the weather was cooler and not so humid, I mean I am running in the Southern Summer which even at night is still hot and humid, I think the truck could have pulled a 16.9 in the winter under the same track conditions. I cant wait till I get my gears and go back to the track. My Reaction Times werent good, because I was just trying to get good launches and not trying to cut a .5 Light. The best got was a .8??? I think if I get the headers, it will let the truck breathe alot better on the top end, which will improve my speed, and then all I think I will do after that is E-fans and maybe, maybe 1.7RR. I think that with the gears, E-fans, Headers, and the 1.7RR, I could pull a low 16 second run out of her, what do yall think.

Thaks for posting your times Strange, your 60 FT goes to show that a 302 can beat a 300 off the line, unlike alot of 300 owners seem to believe. On the other site they think their 300s are superior to everything.

 

With a manual tranny the 300 will launch a lot harder. The stock converter is extremely tight (it's designed for hauling and towing) and won't let the engine rev. With a stock converter, your 302's launch would be a tenth or two softer as well.

 

I know on the "other" site and this one 300 owners get defensive when it come's to 300 vs 302 post's, or atleast I do. I can't think of anyone one off of this site or FTW that ever thought the 302 could never beat the 300 off the line.

I wish I could say I haven't had my *** handed to me by a few 302's

But I know 302 owners get very defensive too when they just can't let their mind think a 300 can beat them(in some cases).

It's just a whole male thing

 

Sprocket,

It does get to be a heated subject at times. Having driven both I think they are about equal off the line with autos, with the converter holding the 302 back for sure, and probably some on the 300 even.

Personally I think the real problem is 300 owners not wanting to admit that size DOES matter. Yea... that's right. We've got a bigger package and that's the reason our wifes and/or girlfriends tend to smile more! There I said it out in the open for everyone to see. You 300 owners may fall for it, but us 302 owners know that your girlfriends are just trying not to hurt your feelings.



I think power delivery has a lot to do with it. The 300 has torque that exists as soon as you hit the throttle, the 302 needs a few revs. Where the 302 curve is heading up, the 300 curve is already declining. The torque curves are almost exact opposites.

 

My bosses truck has a 300 and i have a 302, both of us have 5 speeds with 3:55 open rear ends. we raced once and he was just about dead even with me off the line, but once i hit 3000rpm, i was gone.

 

As has been pointed out several thousand times, the 300 is a truck engine and the 302 is a car engine. If you do car-like things such as racing, the 302 should work better. It's designed to. Running empty, I would expect a 302 to beat a 300 at all distances from launch to 1/4 mile and beyond.

If you put 4500 lbs. of car and trailer behind both trucks and drop about 500 lbs. of tools and pit equipment in the bed, I'd bet the 300 would do better. Think Quarterhorses vs. Clydesdales.

 

my thoughts exactly

 

I have a 351 with a 3.55 rear in my 93 and I am realistic enough not to even try 1/4mile times

the late Fords Chevies and Dodges ALL leave 302s 300s 351s in their exhaust smoke

With out heads cams blowers stokers etc we ought to be happy with just having great looking trucks

You want to compete with whats out today you need them mods

For example with a KB blower on my 5.8 it would have 290HP only 5 more than a 5.3 vortec and 55 less than a hemi (Dodge is 500lbs heavier though )