Department of Injustice????

Old Jul 14, 2013 | 09:40 PM
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Department of Injustice????

I see old Eric (I had no idea that was going on) Holder is still looking into ways to screw George Zimmerman. Guess they want to put him into a cell with the guy that made the video that "caused" the embassy attack.

Maybe he could just get one of his cartel buddys to come up here and use one of the "lost" fast and furious guns. That way he could get a 2fer.

I tell ya, they can't make toilet paper fast enough to clean up all the crap from this administration

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waddya think?
 
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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 09:47 PM
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As promised:


Right before our very eyes. Like it or not.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 10:02 PM
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I pick.....NOT!!!!!!

The part that bothers me is what my kids and grand kids will have to live with. I have done my best to teach them about what is going on, the problem is the children of the flower children are running the show now. The attitude is as long as someone else is taking care of things I don't have to worry/work/do anything.

We are living a real life Animal Farm, Heck even Bloomberg is questioning the stand your ground laws. Soon you can be arrested for defending yourself.

I have read read some of the facetwit replies about the verdict and would laugh my but off if I didn't think these people think like that. The public un-education has done it's job very well, ehh comrad!
 

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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 12:31 AM
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The real stupidity of this is that Stand Your Ground NEVER came into play in the GZ/TM trial. People have been saying that it WOULD be used as a defense since day one but it NEVER was. This case was a straight up Self Defense case. It appears to be that this is just another attack on gun rights by the atni-gunners and that they're using the SHEEPLE that are upset about the Fl vs GZ verdict to try and get what they want.

It will take YEARS, if not decades, to undo the damage that BHO and EH have done to this country!
 
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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 01:05 AM
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A big ole group of asses, or "peaceful" protesters as they like to be called, shut down an entire highway south of Houston in protest of the Zimmerman case. A HIGHWAY! For HOURS. A woman was trying to take her child to the hospital for a sever allergic reaction and they wouldn't let them through. It was serious enough that there was a possibility of the child dying. Not one arrest was made and I want every one of them tried for attempted manslaughter.

The Martins were thinking of trying Zimmerman in a civil case, but might not now because Trayvon's past can be brought up against him in a civil case. Our wonderful media doesn't like to talk about the fact that the "innocent young man" supposedly had possession of equipment for breaking into cars and/or homes, as well as 11 items of stolen jewelry found to be from someone's home. I'm unsure as to the location of the neighborhood it belonged to, but I hope it wasn't the one he was shot in.

I'm part of the generation that's going to be shafted because of everything that's going on right now. I can't even begin talk of this administration and the direction this country is headed in because there isn't enough time in a day to discuss it all. I refuse to keep up with much of it anymore because all it does it ruin my day and make me bitter
 
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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 11:40 PM
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Yep, and..........................DOJ is not going to return Zimmerman's pistol. Poor guy has the whole US government after him, watch next will be an IRS audit!
 
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Old Jul 19, 2013 | 10:04 AM
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Yep, and..........................DOJ is not going to return Zimmerman's pistol. Poor guy has the whole US government after him, watch next will be an IRS audit!
The article I read said the White House is not aware of any death threats against Zimmerman.... Riiiigggghhhhhttt.

As for the IRS, if they audit him right away, that would give his attorneys something to talk to the media about. And the IRS is too high profile right now anyways. They need to let the heat die down.

IMO, the DOJ and regime are weighing their options . Public and open persecution of Zimmerman, or allow something to happen to him 'quietly'.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2013 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by joe51
The real stupidity of this is that Stand Your Ground NEVER came into play in the GZ/TM trial. People have been saying that it WOULD be used as a defense since day one but it NEVER was. This case was a straight up Self Defense case. It appears to be that this is just another attack on gun rights by the atni-gunners and that they're using the SHEEPLE that are upset about the Fl vs GZ verdict to try and get what they want.

It will take YEARS, if not decades, to undo the damage that BHO and EH have done to this country!
The stand your ground law IS the self defense law.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2013 | 11:17 AM
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Here is a good write-up on the stupidity.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...dy_119311.html

Originally Posted by 1depd
The stand your ground law IS the self defense law.
Not true. Every state allows for self defense. 21 states have a stand your ground law which further qualifies it to states that you do not have to make an attempt to get away from an attacker. In the case of Zimmerman, the stand your ground law was meaningless as he was flat on his back being attacked by Martin. There was no way to escape.
 

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Old Jul 21, 2013 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by kingfish51
Not true. Every state allows for self defense. 21 states have a stand your ground law which further qualifies it to states that you do not have to make an attempt to get away from an attacker. In the case of Zimmerman, the stand your ground law was meaningless as he was flat on his back being attacked by Martin. There was no way to escape.
I don't care what other states have on the books. Florida's self defense law is the stand your ground law. It is the same section of law. You can not apply some parts of the law but not others when they are included in the same section. You either apply the whole section or none of it. When using deadly force in self defense there is no duty to retreat. The fact that Zimmerman could not retreat since he had been pinned is meaningless, since retreat or not is irrelevant. Here is the law:

776.012 Use of force in defense of person.—A person is justified in using force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force. However, a person is justified in the use of deadly force and does not have a duty to retreat if:
(1) He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony; or

(2) Under those circumstances permitted pursuant to s. 776.013.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2013 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 1depd
I don't care what other states have on the books. Florida's self defense law is the stand your ground law. It is the same section of law. You can not apply some parts of the law but not others when they are included in the same section. You either apply the whole section or none of it. When using deadly force in self defense there is no duty to retreat. The fact that Zimmerman could not retreat since he had been pinned is meaningless, since retreat or not is irrelevant. Here is the law:

776.012 Use of force in defense of person.—A person is justified in using force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force. However, a person is justified in the use of deadly force and does not have a duty to retreat if:
(1) He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony; or

(2) Under those circumstances permitted pursuant to s. 776.013.
Before 2005, Florida did not have a stand your ground law. In this case, even without the law he would have been acquitted. The stand your ground law in Florida is meaningless in this case.


http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/07/2...out-stand.html
 

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Old Jul 21, 2013 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by kingfish51
Before 2005, Florida did not have a stand your ground law. In this case, even without the law he would have been acquitted. The stand your ground law in Florida is meaningless in this case.
You can post as many articles from newspapers as you want. Reporters are notoriously inaccurate. I was trained on the law when it was passed by the state's attorney's office (prosecutors), since I was enforcing Florida's laws at the time. The last sentence in the section of law I posted contains the ability to use deadly force and that retreat is not required. Not only can you not separate a section of law, you really can't separate that last sentence. If you are able to use deadly force in self defense, you do not have to retreat. You can not say someone had the ability to use deadly force, but the stand your ground law didn't apply because it is all contained in the same sentence of the section of law. If stand your ground didn't apply then the use of deadly force was unlawful. It would be no different than saying you can continue to inhale and never exhale. You can't separate them.

The only thing the law added in 2006 was the second half of that last sentence. Deadly force had been allowed prior to the passing of the "stand your ground" law.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2013 | 11:49 PM
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Will never pass the test for a grand jury, FBI has the Zim cleared. Holder is just a lying blowhard.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by aussiekeeper
Will never pass the test for a grand jury, FBI has the Zim cleared. Holder is just a lying blowhard.
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They will try, just like the Bengahzi video guy (he is still in jail)!

What gets me is all these people "protesting" keep saying "justice for Trayvon" like he didn't have a hand in any of this. If the truth be told, the kid was a POS. Mommy and Daddy working for the court system or something, you know all this punk's life they have been pulling strings and calling in favors to keep his record as clean as they could. What his record does hold is just the tip of the iceberg IMHO! If this punk was such an angel then why don't Mommy and Daddy release ALL his records?

This case is a prime example as to how far we have sunk into the sewer in this country! And the MSM has filthy hands in the whole thing, again IMHO!

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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 07:18 AM
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Will never pass the test for a grand jury, FBI has the Zim cleared. Holder is just a lying blowhard.
A prosecutor worth a darn can indict a ham sandwich.
 
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