Just got my 2007 XLT 4x4 SCrew 3 days ago. It rained all last night and this morning, and the truck was parked most of that time. This afternoon, I popped off the driver's door speaker cover to begin the job of installing new speakers all around. The door had water drips all inside it, and there was water all over the back of the factory speaker!

I checked all around the door, inside and and out, and all the seals looked great. Of course, I did not install my expensive new speakers. I just put the door panel back on and spent the rest of the afternoon being disapointed about it. I'll just have to find the time to get it back to the dealer.

Anyone else familiar with this problem?

 

yes

check my question below on a 2006 model

https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=268734

It has rained overnight here in Mobile and before I started to work, in a slack part of the storm I pulled the lower panel off same as yours lots of water in and arround the speaker, thank goodness there is a plastic layer between the water and the inside panel otherwise we would be dealing with water inside

after I got to work, and parked inside a parking garage, I pull the panel again and looked, plenty of water, no accumulations in botton of door, at least the drains are open and no puddling.

there is something about the window seals and where the 2 doors meet

I tried a Tarus and did not get the soap bubbles like on the truck, and so far no one will let me try the same test on their truck.

Is this normal? I know water will get in the door but this much?

My main concern is the amount of moisture getting inside the cab and water condensing and running down the windows, at some point I am likely to have a mold or mildew problem

I would like to know a solution before I approach the dealer, in case they have no clue.

I am leaving the lower panel loose, so I can keep checking.

 

l called my dealer's service department today. The advisor explained that Ford uses a "wet door design" and that water running down the inside of the door (which is painted) is normal. Just keep the drain slots at the bottom clean and open.

Then he asked me if the water was on the inside of the "weather sheets", or just between the outer door skin and the weather sheets. I said "What weather sheets"?

I noticed (when doing the speaker swap) in my '04 model SCrew that each door had a thick black plastic sort of spongy filled sheet lining the inside of the door between the outer metal skin and the inside door panel. It was almost like a "Dynamat" sound proofing/vibration dampening material. I always thought it was for road noise reduction, but indeed there was never any water inside this liner that I noticed. I described these sheets and the advisor said "yes, that is the weather sheet, but now they are clear".

I replied that no such sheet was in the driver's door of my '07. I have not checked the rest. He is checing with Ford engineering to see if elimination of the sheet was intentional or a mistake. I am beginning to worry that with all the Ford layoffs and plant closings, quality is splipping (or worse, there is intentional sabotage).

We don't have Ford's reply yet, but I'll keep you posted.

 

Yesterday I checked this out in more detail. I did not take the front door panels completely off, but I did remove the speaker grills. The clear weather sheet is there. You can see it behind the tweeter opening, but not behind the main speaker cutout. The dealer said this is by design so that the speaker can resonate. I sprayed water on the outside of the door, window and mirror. Sure enough, the water just absolutely floods down through the door interior. It is amazing that the seals look so tight and this much water still gets past. There is what appears to be a "downspout" right behind and above the main speaker. A majority of the water channeled through this.

Since my new speakers are deeper, I was concerned the water would dump right on top of them. I installed a plastic sheet to drape over the back of the speaker. This definitely degraded the sound quality! Worse, when I did the water test again, it actually ran out from underneath the speaker to the inside of the truck! The sheet must have transferred the water to some other component that channeled it the wrong way. So, out with the plastic sheets! The speakers now sound great and I'm just taking my chances that they won't get but a few, non-damaging drops of water on them. I installed them so that the bulky crossover assembly and terminals are on the far side from the downspout. I sprayed some more water on the truck, then checked the back of the speaker, and it wasn't wet. Perhaps I was just over-reacting when I first removed my factory speakers. It was a rainy day. Had I swapped speakers in my 04 SCrew on a rainy day, I might have noticed the same thing. I never had a problem with the aftermarket speakers on that truck.

BTW, the water floods through the SCrew's back doors, as well. I totally removed both rear door panels (as is required for the speaker swap). On the back doors the weather sheets are dark gray, not clear. However, they are still cutout for the speaker opening. You can see how much water comes through - a lot.

I suppose this "wet door design" is a good one. It's probably better than a dry door design that leaks unintentionally. For all I know, all vehicles these days use a wet door.

 

It sounds like Ford kind of dropped the ball on this one. My friend has a 2004 Screw. He brought it over to me because the rear door speakers were not working. I found that they had been replaced with after market componet speakers and they were blown. Due to the huge amp that had been installed we thought that was the problem. Nope. He really didn't care about the better sound quality so we replaced them with upgraded 2 ways. About 8 months later he called back again and said they quit working again. We checked the amp thinking it was the problem, again, but it turns out when we took off the rear door panels the speakers were soaking wet. Both of them. He had just washed the truck before bringing it over, that is probably why we found it this time and not last time. If there is supposed to be a cover? between the speakers and the exterior panel? When we replace the speakers this time we are going to cover them in plastic, but I'm worried they will make noise. Any suggestions? Thanks, Mike

 

There has been no such "ball droppage." This is normal. Most, if not all new cars do this

There is a very easy solution, however, if you are afraid of damaging your speakers. There are some foam cases you can get (XTC brand) that will cover the entire speaker. They work great