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jbrew 04-12-2010 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by Randylahey (Post 4176413)
hi guys,

I recently did the big3 upgrade and i did mine as follows.

Green - Negative batt (-) to Chassis
Red - Positive batt (+) to Alt (Fused)
Blue - Negative batt (-) to Engine block

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4...bba9e8206b.jpg

Is this a correct way of doing it? I have some wire left over, did i miss anything?

thanks guys!

I did it as well, -a little differently because of my set up. I wanted just one connect @ the battery post. The biggest difference I noticed is that the windows whip up and down, - fast! They weren't like that before. Great write up!

I cleaned up that Big cab to frame ground back of the cab as well. Not sure if that helped, but all and all, it turned out good.

coobies5 04-13-2010 12:18 AM

dont forget frame to chassis

Randylahey 04-14-2010 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by mSaLL150 (Post 4120913)
Cool step by step write up. I like the attention to detail and colored guidelines.

A couple things to add though:

1) Wires under the hood must have protection of some sort. Proper looming is critical for safety.

2) The fuse must be rated for what the wire is rated for, not just any amount between 200 and 300. If the wire is rated for a maximum of 250A, it would make zero sense to put a 300A fuse on it.


I strongly recommend the frame to chassy ground. The stock one is like 12awg. I was amazed at how small it was when I swapped to 1/0. While for some it may not be necessary, many people ground their large sound systems straight to the frame for a nice clean ground so this 4th wire is one that really should be upgraded anyways. So theoretically it should be called "the big 4 upgrade" :)

Comparison:

https://www.f150online.com/forums/me...ison-stock.jpg

Installed:

https://www.f150online.com/forums/me...ame-ground.jpg

Just posting the picture for those who want to direct replace this wire instead of running it to the battery post.

Otherwise, nice job man. :thumbsup:

I'm having some trouble trying to find this wire so i can installa 1/0, could anyone get me a little more insight on where to look?

thanks!

coobies5 04-14-2010 04:20 PM

front passenger side right behind the wheel well UNDER the truck

Randylahey 04-14-2010 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by coobies5 (Post 4178589)
front passenger side right behind the wheel well UNDER the truck

Found it, thanks!

ELVATO 04-16-2010 05:20 PM

Hmm, maybe have to do this eventually. I idle at 13.5-13.3, and it got down to low 12s when listening to music and putting my window down. Probably doesn't help that I have under drive pulleys.

expedition4x4 05-21-2010 02:52 PM

Pics don't work.

mblouir 05-21-2010 03:11 PM

https://www.f150online.com/forums/4221118-post23.html

Working on it.

mears 06-05-2010 06:30 PM

Couple questions.

My factory engine block ground appears to run to a starter bolt under the car. For my big four upgrade, wouldn't it be better to run the thicker wire directly to the frame instead of the same starter bolt? The chassis-frame ground is pretty close.

I noticed that a lot of people ground the battery to the chassis, but wouldn't it be better to ground it to the frame as well? Yes, I know the chassis is connected to the frame, but it seems like going direct to the frame would be the lowest resistance.

JJDH 06-05-2010 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by mears (Post 4238612)
Couple questions.

My factory engine block ground appears to run to a starter bolt under the car. For my big four upgrade, wouldn't it be better to run the thicker wire directly to the frame instead of the same starter bolt? The chassis-frame ground is pretty close.

I noticed that a lot of people ground the battery to the chassis, but wouldn't it be better to ground it to the frame as well? Yes, I know the chassis is connected to the frame, but it seems like going direct to the frame would be the lowest resistance.

The factory has a reason to run that ground to the starter, I just ran the new wires right next to factory and followed the same routes to ensure nothing out of the ordinary happens. Dont want to give it a reason to create noise.

mears 06-07-2010 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by JJDH (Post 4238804)
The factory has a reason to run that ground to the starter, I just ran the new wires right next to factory and followed the same routes to ensure nothing out of the ordinary happens. Dont want to give it a reason to create noise.

Fair enough, but alternator mounting bolt to starter mounting bolt is an engine block to engine block connection. I can't see where the starter bolt grounds to the frame or chassis.

mears 06-08-2010 01:50 AM


Originally Posted by mears (Post 4240356)
Fair enough, but alternator mounting bolt to starter mounting bolt is an engine block to engine block connection. I can't see where the starter bolt grounds to the frame or chassis.

Ok, I did a bit more wire tracing and here is how the grounding is handled on the 2009s, which sounds like it is similar, if not equal to earlier years,

Negative Battery Terminal is grounded to the chassis via a short run to sheet metal under hood
Negative Battery Terminal is connected to engine block via a bolt on starter underneath the truck.
Bolt on starter has a second wire that grounds to the frame underneath the passenger side front wheel well.
Chassis is grounded to frame via a non-insulated wire braid just behind front passenger wheel.


So, with that detailed out, here is what I'm thinking about doing is keeping all factory wiring and running 1/0 along side it with one exception: Instead of running 1/0 from negative terminal to starter bolt and then 1/0 from starter bolt to frame, I'm thinking of running 1/0 from negative terminal to starter bolt and then 1/0 from negative terminal to frame. The reason being is that it's pretty crowded down there and I don't think I can squeeze two runs of 1/0 to the starter bolt. Thoughts?

rok 06-09-2010 06:32 PM

What gives? pics not working anymore on Post #1

mblouir 06-09-2010 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by rok (Post 4242753)
What gives? pics not working anymore on Post #1


Originally Posted by expedition4x4 (Post 4223514)
Pics don't work.


Originally Posted by mblouir (Post 4223534)



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rok 06-09-2010 07:03 PM

Thanks. My bad just went to last page after seeing first post wasnt working.


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