System Upgrade Help
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System Upgrade Help
I am going to be upgrading my system in two steps in the next 3-4 months. I'm in a 2004 Ford F-150 FX4 SuperCrew. Please feel free to provide any and all feedback on this setup. If there are better products/methods, I would love to know. Aside from the items in the current setup, the Germs and the MD22, I have not purchased the rest yet. Sorry for all the detail. I figured the more I provided the better.
Current Setup
4 Gauge from Battery to Amps mounted on the back wall of the cab. Amps Grounded with 4 Gauge to back wall of cab.
Stinger SPD813 Power Distribution Block. This takes my 4 Gauge Power and provides me with Four 8 GA Outputs
HU: Alpine 9815
Two Amps:
Kicker KX400.1
PG TANTRUM 400.4 [/INDENT]Speakers:
Optima Yellow Top or Kinetik Battery
Current Setup
4 Gauge from Battery to Amps mounted on the back wall of the cab. Amps Grounded with 4 Gauge to back wall of cab.
Stinger SPD813 Power Distribution Block. This takes my 4 Gauge Power and provides me with Four 8 GA Outputs
HU: Alpine 9815
Two Amps:
Kicker KX400.1
PG TANTRUM 400.4 [/INDENT]Speakers:
Front Stage: PowerBass S-6C (Powered by PG)
Rear Fill: PowerBass S-652 (Powered by PG - Using Fader to restrict the signal to rear fill)
Sub: JL Audio Stealthbox with 10W3v3 wired 4 ohms (Powered by KX400.1)
Installation Upgrades:Rear Fill: PowerBass S-652 (Powered by PG - Using Fader to restrict the signal to rear fill)
Sub: JL Audio Stealthbox with 10W3v3 wired 4 ohms (Powered by KX400.1)
Optima Yellow Top or Kinetik Battery
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Intermediate Setup (Installing in the next two-three weeks):
HU: Alpine 9815
Two Amps:
HU: Something Double Din with NAV/DVD/iPod. Leaning toward the Alpine IVA-W200 (http://www.alpine-usa.com/US-en/prod...model=IVA-W200)
Two Amps:
Thanks in advance.
Dave
HU: Alpine 9815
Two Amps:
US Amps MD22
Kicker KX400.1
Speakers:Kicker KX400.1
Front Stage: Rainbow CS 265.25 Germanium (Powered by MD22)
Rear Fill: PowerBass S-652 (Powered from HU)
Sub: JL Audio Stealthbox with 10W3v3 wired 4 ohms (Powered by KX400.1)
Installation Upgrades:Rear Fill: PowerBass S-652 (Powered from HU)
Sub: JL Audio Stealthbox with 10W3v3 wired 4 ohms (Powered by KX400.1)
Add Elemental Designs eDead v1SE² to Front Doors and Rear Wall of cab
Big 3 Upgrade 1/0 gauge from knukonceptz ANL fuse holder item #FH-20 with the 250 Amp ANL Fuse Item # ANL250. 5 Gold Plated 1/0 Ring Terminal - Black Item # RT1/0516BK
Upgrade Stinger SPD813 to KonFUSED 3 Way Distribution System
Run 4 Gauge Power from Battery In, use the 4 Gauge out to the MD22 and the 8 Guage out to the Kicker.
I need to figure out the fuse configuration for this. It accepts three fuses from 30A to 150A per circuit.
Replace Speaker Wire from Amps to all Speakers. 10 Gauge all the way around. Not decided on brand/model yet. Recommendations are welcome.
Final Setup (Installing in March/April)Big 3 Upgrade 1/0 gauge from knukonceptz ANL fuse holder item #FH-20 with the 250 Amp ANL Fuse Item # ANL250. 5 Gold Plated 1/0 Ring Terminal - Black Item # RT1/0516BK
Upgrade Stinger SPD813 to KonFUSED 3 Way Distribution System
Run 4 Gauge Power from Battery In, use the 4 Gauge out to the MD22 and the 8 Guage out to the Kicker.
I need to figure out the fuse configuration for this. It accepts three fuses from 30A to 150A per circuit.
Replace Speaker Wire from Amps to all Speakers. 10 Gauge all the way around. Not decided on brand/model yet. Recommendations are welcome.
HU: Something Double Din with NAV/DVD/iPod. Leaning toward the Alpine IVA-W200 (http://www.alpine-usa.com/US-en/prod...model=IVA-W200)
Two Amps:
US Amps MD22
New Sub Amp. Likely a US Amps. Leaning toward the US Amps MD1D or MD2D if the JL 10W3v3 can handle the power from the MD2D. Researching that with Flacko (US Amps Guy) now.
Speakers:New Sub Amp. Likely a US Amps. Leaning toward the US Amps MD1D or MD2D if the JL 10W3v3 can handle the power from the MD2D. Researching that with Flacko (US Amps Guy) now.
Front Stage: Rainbow CS 265.25 Germanium (Powered by MD22)
Rear Fill: Rainbow SL 165(Powered from HU)
Sub: JL Audio Stealthbox with 10W3v3 wired 4 ohms (Powered by either MD1D or MD2D)
Installation Upgrades:Rear Fill: Rainbow SL 165(Powered from HU)
Sub: JL Audio Stealthbox with 10W3v3 wired 4 ohms (Powered by either MD1D or MD2D)
Add Elemental Designs eDead v1SE² to Rear Doors
Replace RCAs from HU to Amps. Not decided on brand/model yet. Recommendations are welcome.
Thinking of adding another battery, but I am not sure if it is necessary.
I would appreciate any feedback you have.Replace RCAs from HU to Amps. Not decided on brand/model yet. Recommendations are welcome.
Thinking of adding another battery, but I am not sure if it is necessary.
Thanks in advance.
Dave
Last edited by BigDave4; Jan 14, 2007 at 10:20 PM.
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Would not spend another penny on rear fill, you already have them upgraded and what you need from the rear will never justify another change. A second battery would only be a second load on the alt, good quality singe bat will do more for you. My preference is the SVR batteries from westco. I might consider a monster 3 channel or 5 channel with the 4 chans bridged to 2, if you like a strong front stage (rockford 25tolife power 1000) or if you like more bass a monster 4 channel running 3 channel with 2 channels bridged to the sub. Since your only talking about a singe sub and a normal front stage one of those combos might save you some cash in the long run and drastically simplify your install. 1 power 1 ground no dist blocks etc. All that money saved can get you into a bigger amp. For head units I would consider the alpine or an eclipse avn 6600. The 6600 has the best ipod control of all the eclipses out there, and the preamp is 5volts.
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Originally Posted by nothinbutaford
Would not spend another penny on rear fill, you already have them upgraded and what you need from the rear will never justify another change. A second battery would only be a second load on the alt, good quality singe bat will do more for you. My preference is the SVR batteries from westco. I might consider a monster 3 channel or 5 channel with the 4 chans bridged to 2, if you like a strong front stage (rockford 25tolife power 1000) or if you like more bass a monster 4 channel running 3 channel with 2 channels bridged to the sub. Since your only talking about a singe sub and a normal front stage one of those combos might save you some cash in the long run and drastically simplify your install. 1 power 1 ground no dist blocks etc. All that money saved can get you into a bigger amp. For head units I would consider the alpine or an eclipse avn 6600. The 6600 has the best ipod control of all the eclipses out there, and the preamp is 5volts.
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Originally Posted by BigDave4
I just got the US Amps MD22. The specs are 2 x 250w 4ohm, 2 x 350w 2ohm, 700w 4ohm bridged. Do you not think that is enough to push the Germs? I thought it would be plenty of good clean power. Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it. Just wanted to follow up with this question.
Dave
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My pvc sheet on my rockford power 1000 is 299 @ 2 ohms x2 and 911 mono on the sub channel. I think 250-350 for the fronts is great, now you just need room for a sub amp. As far as the jl handling one of the new amps your looking at, I wouldn't be that concerned. With all the power you will have on tap you certainly will be spending time with gain adjustments and with that much power on the fronts the sub would be the last speaker to worry about.
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Originally Posted by dconder
My Germs should be here this week. I will be running them with 275 watts per and the dealer I am getting them from (6spdcoupe), said that should be about perfect. I think you will be fine.