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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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Step One: Sound Insulating

Hello gents, this is my first post on the forums and I am glad to be here.

I have been reading off and on for the better part of three weeks and have a wealth of information stored in my two brain cells. Now all I need to do is organize the information so it makes sense

I ordered an 07 SC Lariat a few weeks ago and it should be here in November. A good speaker system is what I am currently gathering notes on.

Step One, the sound insulating. My question is what brand of insulation would you fellas recommend? I know there are various types out there but am not sure which one I should go with. The plan is to do the doors and back wall, first, then close everything back up while I piece together a high quality SQ system..

Advice would be most appreciated..

Thanks, Sawacs
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Sawacs
Hello gents, this is my first post on the forums and I am glad to be here.

I have been reading off and on for the better part of three weeks and have a wealth of information stored in my two brain cells. Now all I need to do is organize the information so it makes sense

I ordered an 07 SC Lariat a few weeks ago and it should be here in November. A good speaker system is what I am currently gathering notes on.

Step One, the sound insulating. My question is what brand of insulation would you fellas recommend? I know there are various types out there but am not sure which one I should go with. The plan is to do the doors and back wall, first, then close everything back up while I piece together a high quality SQ system..

Advice would be most appreciated..

Thanks, Sawacs
My favorite is Damplifier from Second Skin Audio. It is butyl based which is what you need to look for. It has a nice adhersion, but not at first which is good for mistakes. After it's been sticking around for a while...it's not coming off. That's good for hot climates. Plus, the butyl base mat doesn't give off an odor like an asphalt based mat.

There was a sound deadener show down on the web, but I can't seem to find it. It has alot of useful info and compares alot of the bigger names of mat. Also bust out some lies in the industries as well.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 04:12 AM
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http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com/
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 04:23 AM
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There you go. Thanks Drew!
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 04:47 AM
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My favorite is Damplifier from Second Skin audio
How many sq ft would it take to do this?




 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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secondskin is hte BEST product out there, bar none. however it costs you up the ***

i used raammat, with excellent results. i used 110 square feet to do my doors, roof, floor, and back wall twice, with 3x in some patches.

id put you at 160 sq feet or so to cover a supercrew just as well (but its good to over estimate)
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by anaheim_drew
How many sq ft would it take to do this?




I would say at least 60 sq ft. That will give you ample amount to put a few layers on. I got 120 sq ft, I had about half left over after the doors and back wall. I went back in and did the inside of the doors. I recommend doing the inside of the door panel too.

I need to tackle the floor and overhead now. lol

BTW, that first pic looks nothing like my back wall now. LOL See that old viper 2500.1 in there. I sold it just in time, about a month after I sold it...it burnt up.
 

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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 06:49 PM
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Thanks!

Gents, thanks for the helpful tips.. I'll check out second skin.

I do not mind going with the best stuff out there so long as it works better than the others

Regarding doing the inside of the doors, how in the nartation, I say tarnation do you get into that area!

Step Two: comming up over in the speaker forums

Thanks again for the advice..

Cheers, Sawacs
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 07:06 PM
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I used Dynamat Extreme. It made a huge difference over stock.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 11:52 PM
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I used Dynamat Extreme. It made a huge difference over stock.
Did you read the sound deadener showdown?

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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 01:06 AM
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Did you read the sound deadener showdown?

SL
I sure did and it was a great read. Thanks!

That is what kinda got the ball rolling on the Damplifier product line: very impressive stuff

Cheers, Sawacs
 
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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RAAMmat is the way to go.

I just finished doing my 02 S-crew. I used 2.5 rolls of deadener at 62.5 sq ft/roll. 9 yds of Ensolite matting and 3 cans of adhesive for the matting. I can't say enough about the RAAMmat. Absolutely awesome stuff. Same thickness as the Second Skin, but LOTS cheaper.

Rick at RAAMmat will gladly aswer any questions you'll have. He answered all my e-mails the same day. If you just have money to burn, then go with the 2nd SKin. But you'll be paying more for the same stuff.

Some lessons learned:

Take your time with the interior pieces when removing them. Go to Advance and get a trim removal tool. IT's worth the $5.00.

Definately do the insides of the doors, I put 2 layers of RAAMmat and a later of Ensolite on the insides of the doors and the same on the exterior skin. Get some screen door replacement screen and cut out pieces to go over the bigger openings in your door. Just duct tape them in place. The deadener isn't stiff enough to cover them alone.

My rear seats took a size 50 Torx bit to remove and the front took a size 55 bit.


I got two layers of RAAMmat and a layer of matting on the floors, two layers and a layer of matting on the inside and outside of all the doors, and the same on the back wall. HUGE difference in noise. Doors have that deep "thunk" when they shut and my speakers sound TONS better.

I'd do the roof, but my moonroof is aftermarket and the headliner is nearly impossible to take down without getting myself into a bad spot.

Take your time, and good luck.

DC
 
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by hawkfxr724
I just finished doing my 02 S-crew. I used 2.5 rolls of deadener at 62.5 sq ft/roll. 9 yds of Ensolite matting and 3 cans of adhesive for the matting. I can't say enough about the RAAMmat. Absolutely awesome stuff. Same thickness as the Second Skin, but LOTS cheaper.

Rick at RAAMmat will gladly aswer any questions you'll have. He answered all my e-mails the same day. If you just have money to burn, then go with the 2nd SKin. But you'll be paying more for the same stuff.

Some lessons learned:

Take your time with the interior pieces when removing them. Go to Advance and get a trim removal tool. IT's worth the $5.00.

Definately do the insides of the doors, I put 2 layers of RAAMmat and a later of Ensolite on the insides of the doors and the same on the exterior skin. Get some screen door replacement screen and cut out pieces to go over the bigger openings in your door. Just duct tape them in place. The deadener isn't stiff enough to cover them alone.

My rear seats took a size 50 Torx bit to remove and the front took a size 55 bit.


I got two layers of RAAMmat and a layer of matting on the floors, two layers and a layer of matting on the inside and outside of all the doors, and the same on the back wall. HUGE difference in noise. Doors have that deep "thunk" when they shut and my speakers sound TONS better.

I'd do the roof, but my moonroof is aftermarket and the headliner is nearly impossible to take down without getting myself into a bad spot.

Take your time, and good luck.

DC
Well, I guess not everyone can get products at discounted prices. lol

Sounds like you did your truck just fine!
 
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 12:33 AM
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Im running two layers in most places; doors, wall, floor. And used about 110'^2
I found it through this site, its called neoprene sound deadener. Supposedly what they use on aircrafts. Only down side is you have to use your own spray adhesive. There should be a link in my sub box thread about where i originally saw it. Also there are pics of the deadener in my box thread
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 12:39 AM
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About 4 months ago I ordered about 70 Sq. ft of the Damplifier for my '06 Screw. Well I got a call from the owner Second Skin saying that I had been upgraded to Damplifier Pro for the goose....Awesome. Customer service was great and the product is awesome. I used 1/4" PVC sheet (little more New England resistant than MDF) to cover the holes in the doors and added Damplifier pro to the outer and inner skins. Midbass is incredible and it is nice and quiet inside when the radio isn't going. One of the best additions I could have made to my truck and definately one of the best things for my stereo.
 
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