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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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Digital tv tuner

I've been putting it off since the digital conversion, but I just wondered what you guys with tv tuners have done or are going to do since the switch. I've thought about hooking up a home converter to my headunit for when I go camping etc.., but that is kind of redneck. I haven't been able to find any converters out there as of yet. Has anyone else.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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I havent seen anything yet. Pretty much the only option that ive seen thus far is a poweri inverter with the home digital converter box.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 04xltdb
I've been putting it off since the digital conversion, but I just wondered what you guys with tv tuners have done or are going to do since the switch. I've thought about hooking up a home converter to my headunit for when I go camping etc.., but that is kind of redneck. I haven't been able to find any converters out there as of yet. Has anyone else.
There are some out there that can be modded to run on 12v DC as that is what thier internal power supply turns it into, but I would do some research and possibly avoid the need for a small inverter.

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I havent seen anything yet. Pretty much the only option that ive seen thus far is a poweri inverter with the home digital converter box.
From my readings the DTV cannot be veiwed at any moving speeds. It seems as if TV in the car while moving, for free is a thing of the past for a while. Just step up and get direct tv in the truck now, lol.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by yetti96
There are some out there that can be modded to run on 12v DC as that is what thier internal power supply turns it into, but I would do some research and possibly avoid the need for a small inverter.



From my readings the DTV cannot be veiwed at any moving speeds. It seems as if TV in the car while moving, for free is a thing of the past for a while. Just step up and get direct tv in the truck now, lol.
We put one in an excursion limo...worked driving it around the parking lot, and he hasnt been back saying it hasnt worked.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 07:07 AM
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Mobile digital TV is just getting started. Google "ATSC-M/H" http://broadcastengineering.com/news...h-basics-0315/ for a technical description.

Current ATSC does not usually work if the receiver is in motion at more than a few MPH or is in a complicated reception area, a downtown environment or a tree and building-line street due to motion-induced multi-path.

Winegard makes a converter box that has an available cig lighter adapter and an available battery pack. Model RC-DT09A for the box and RC-12DC for the adapter. Both are available from Solid Signal up in Novi, MI.
 

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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 01:45 PM
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This is what your looking for. Havent seen many others yet, especially from the big names in mobile audio.

http://www.amazon.com/PYLE-PLTVATSC1...4417381&sr=8-2
 
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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This is what your looking for. Havent seen many others yet, especially from the big names in mobile audio.

http://www.amazon.com/PYLE-PLTVATSC1...4417381&sr=8-2
Read through it quickly and it mentions nothing about mobile reception.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by yetti96
Read through it quickly and it mentions nothing about mobile reception.
Ughhhhhh, what do you expect it to say? Its a 12v ATSC tuner designed for vehicles/RVs.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 10:50 PM
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Ughhhhhh, what do you expect it to say? Its a 12v ATSC tuner designed for vehicles/RVs.
Mobile would be a key phase to justify a $100 antenna IMO. Also RVs don't watch tv while moving, only stationary. So unless I am just that retarded how is one to be sure it can receive signals while moving?
 
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 11:15 PM
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As already posted in this thread, DTV is usually not viewable while moving. This is not a limitation of the hardware, but rather transmission/reception limitations on the ATSC signal.

The OP asked about DTV tuners for the vehicle, and was told he would need a home tuner and an inverter (including yourself). Im simply pointing out that is not true. There are tuners out there and they work without inverters or modding the power supply. If it was not already stated that these tuners would not work while "mobile" I would have mentioned that point myself.

I guess you dont own an RV if you dont think that TV is viewed while moving, LOL. I own the product I linked to and can get a signal while moving, but at slow speeds. As already posted, dont expect to get a reliable signal from DTV while driving.
 

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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 08:14 AM
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As already posted in this thread, DTV is usually not viewable while moving. This is not a limitation of the hardware, but rather transmission/reception limitations on the ATSC signal.

The OP asked about DTV tuners for the vehicle, and was told he would need a home tuner and an inverter (including yourself). Im simply pointing out that is not true. There are tuners out there and they work without inverters or modding the power supply. If it was not already stated that these tuners would not work while "mobile" I would have mentioned that point myself.

I guess you dont own an RV if you dont think that TV is viewed while moving, LOL. I own the product I linked to and can get a signal while moving, but at slow speeds. As already posted, dont expect to get a reliable signal from DTV while driving.

Well with your brief post I assumed it was to show us all that there was a mobile version, which we all have still come to find out, is not yet possible. Maybe I mistook your previous post with minimal content to be snippy and/or positively sure to be the answer to the OPs original question. While the OP is listing the situation of camping and watching TV on the headunit, I would not think the viewing purposes were for camping only. I just find it hard to believe one would go camping, only to sit in their truck to try to watch a rigged up system on a 7" screen at best. I know I want mobile TV and not the satellite type with the associated hardware and monthly costs. TV in the truck is luxury IMO and it would be nice if a $50 was all that is needed.

While I have not yet searched for the link again, I do recall seeing people who had modded dtv converter boxes to work with their 12v systems and their existing antennas that became obsolete this year. Some brands take 110-120v AC and the internal power supply converts the power to 12v DC for the unit to consume...this being the case mean basically no modding except the removal of the power supply and rewiring the plug to a 12v plug or a hardwire situation. As I have also previously motioned:

Originally Posted by yetti96
There are some out there that can be modded to run on 12v DC as that is what thier internal power supply turns it into, but I would do some research and possibly avoid the need for a small inverter.

No I do not own an RV but have been in them all of my life and any TV in the view of the driver is not legally allowed to work while in motion, even the Bounder with the TV up top in the class A was not viewable to the drive unless they somehow stood on the seat and leaned back over the backrest, which would never happen while driving. And for rear TVs in the kitchen or bedroom might be able to be powered up since it is not in the driver's view and on a separate circuit for power, but if using antenna, you would have to have the typical RV Antenna wing cranked up over 2 feet in the air, if even possible. Different RVs had different systems, the older ones we had had no alarm if left up, then came the buzzer that was so annoyingly loud you would not dare to proceed on your trip if it was accidently left up, then the more recent ones would not allow the motor to start if the antenna was left up.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 09:44 AM
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I guess we have different expectations of a "mobile" tv tuner. Viewing tv while driving is probably last on my list of needs. I only have an in-dash monitor in the truck, and like you said viewing video while driving is not legal. I do use it very often, kids soccer games/practice during football season make it a necessity for me. I also use it while camping / tailgating. I have a set of wires where I can plug up to a 26" monitor in the bed.

The reason this is in fact a mobile A/V product is its size and installation flexibility. This tuner is only 8"x4"x1". It fits tucked away in my dash, wires up to the existing wiring / stereo equipment , and has a credit card remote and extended remote eye. How are you supposed to install/hide a home DTV converter box the size of a dvd player? Change channels? That would never be an option for me.

The family has always watched over the air tv in the back of the RV, until the very recent switch to DTV. Now they are limited to dvd's or video games, the horror!

04xltdb, i hope your question got answered. There are options, redneck and perminate
 

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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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I was just on SonicElectronix looking at a hdtv to attach to my New NAV/DVD unit.
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/cat_i68_tv-tuners.html
The review on one complains about reception and the review on another says its great.But a lot I would have to think has to do with antenna installation.I know a few guys that have them in mini vans for the kids and they say there great? I have one in mind that I'm thinking about getting but I need to research it a bit more...And I have to convince my self to get it since I really dont need it with the DVD player and a computer to download from..I just kinda want it for the heck of it.
 

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Old Jul 6, 2010 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 04xltdb
I've been putting it off since the digital conversion, but I just wondered what you guys with tv tuners have done or are going to do since the switch. I've thought about hooking up a home converter to my headunit for when I go camping etc.., but that is kind of redneck. I haven't been able to find any converters out there as of yet. Has anyone else.
If you haven't done it yet you could try the hurricane store: http://www.hurricanestore.com/. Along with selling all sorts of survival tools they also sell portable digital TV's designed for camping. We just can't give up our luxuries (anywhere) can we?
 
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