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Old Dec 10, 2002 | 02:29 PM
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Question Air/Fuel Numbers

I need to find out air/fuel numbers, so I wonder about following:

1) Which ones I am interested in: before air/fuel mixture enters engine, ones from exhaust, or both? What are pros and cons of each method?

2) Ones from exhaust I can read out through probe or using wideband sensor installed in exhaust. How I can read out ones before engine? Are there any ports on a truck that allow for hooking up of hardware/software that would read out these in real time?

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Old Dec 10, 2002 | 02:37 PM
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The only air/fuel I know about is in the exhaust.
When on a dyno the air/fuel ratio should be no more that 12.5:1. There are some tuners out there that will go no more than 11.5-12:1. I am talking about a engine that is supercharged under "load".
The perfect air/fuel ratio when at idle is 14.7:1.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2002 | 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by 389lightning
The only air/fuel I know about is in the exhaust.
When on a dyno the air/fuel ratio should be no more that 12.5:1. There are some tuners out there that will go no more than 11.5-12:1. I am talking about a engine that is supercharged under "load".
The perfect air/fuel ratio when at idle is 14.7:1.
Thanks!

What is being read out by air/fuel gauge though? What is truck's computer reading out? And is there a way to read out this numbers while moving down a freeway?

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Old Dec 10, 2002 | 02:54 PM
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the air/fuel guages will read the air/fuel ratio as you are driving
 
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Old Dec 10, 2002 | 03:04 PM
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You need a wide band hooked into a bung on your header or replace an O2 sensor with the wide band monitor (I have heard this method is worse due to eliminating the O2 sensor). That will allow you to read your A/F ratios while driving down the road. A gauge will just give you a light display......the wide band will give you exact numbers.

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Old Dec 10, 2002 | 03:23 PM
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Check out www.techedge.com.au. The make the best less expensive wide band meter on the market. It uses a 5 wire wide-band O2 sensor that is located in the exhaust.
This meter is comperable the the $1200 Lamda meters used on chassis dynos for a fraction of the price. It also uses the 12 volt vehicle power. So you can install it and see what the air/fuel is when driving down the road.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2002 | 04:01 PM
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I think Anderson Motorsports sells a $500 meter. If you try the link above, remove the "." at the end. Here is the correct link.
http://www.techedge.com.au
 
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Old Dec 10, 2002 | 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by brap
the air/fuel guages will read the air/fuel ratio as you are driving
Yeah, but they will be reading it from where ?

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Old Dec 10, 2002 | 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by soap
You need a wide band hooked into a bung on your header or replace an O2 sensor with the wide band monitor (I have heard this method is worse due to eliminating the O2 sensor). That will allow you to read your A/F ratios while driving down the road. A gauge will just give you a light display......the wide band will give you exact numbers.
Hey, I like that! Why they put them in exhaust though?

And what air and/or fuel info is being read out by truck's computer and would I benefit in any way from getting it?

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Old Dec 10, 2002 | 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by 99svtlightning
I think Anderson Motorsports sells a $500 meter.
Thank you! $500 is not small money, so I will not do it immediately, but I am VERY tempted to do it little later

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Old Dec 10, 2002 | 05:59 PM
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where in L.A. are you? Theres a muffler shop on crenshaw I think its called speedway and have them weld you a bung. Then go up the street to swanson to measure A/F ratio.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2002 | 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by 389lightning
Check out www.techedge.com.au The make the best less expensive wide band meter on the market.
Thank you for a hookup! It definitely goes on my 'must have' mod list.

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Old Dec 10, 2002 | 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by Z28KLR
where in L.A. are you?
Z28KLR, I just noticed: We are both in San Pedro. Maybe we should hook up and exchange experiences. e-mail me if you want to.

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