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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 09:33 PM
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<<<<You want to get what's in the converter, more thna half your fluid is in the converter, a whopping 8.25 quarts. A fluch machine is really the best way, even if you have a drain plug, the clutch drums and wormtrail hold hold a few quarts between them.


Have almost 30,000 miles on a 01 L. Went to a "EZ Lube" to
change to synthetic tranny fluid. They used their flush machine, for the swap. The machine register read 17.4 quarts. I asked the tech if the total swap was 17.4 quarts. He said, "yes thats the total transfer old and new fluid combined.(Old out new in) " "To fig how much Mobile1 you truck took....divide by 2." I have a ford deep sump pan, 17.4 divided by 2 is 8.7 quarts.

I thought complete flush tranny and converter would total more than 9 quarts. I remember Lightningrod mentioned his truck took something like 13 quarts........

Could somebody confirm what a total flush would add up to........Thanks
 
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 10:05 PM
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The owners manual says 16.8 quarts, plas add 24 oz if you have a deep pan installed. I thiknk your tech was screwwy, the machines I have seen the total transfer is just that, so 17.4 would be acceptable. how does it measure both when at any given time half of it is in the transmission?

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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 09:12 AM
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Two minor but important things some guys miss (but not any of us of course).

Make sure, when you pull down to remove the oil filter, the neck sealing ring comes out. If it doesn't, reach in the hole and pull it out. It is usually (not always) orange in color. There will be a new one on the replacement filter.

The other thing is, if you are changing to the Ford 4x4 pan, get the ring magnet from the original pan, clean it, and put it over the drain plug opening in the new pan before installing the pan.

Good luck,

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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 09:34 AM
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I am not a big fan of trans flushing, mainly for two reasons:

First: during the flushing operation the old oil is mixing with the new oil, and no matter what anyone says, the old oil is never totally vacated from the trans. Don't get me wrong, flushing is for some, but the results are less than stellar in my book.

Second: The trans filter is not being changed. The filter is designed to trap particles, and it does this so well that they remain in the filter until the filter is removed. I changed my trans fluid at 15k mi, and the inside of the pan was grey in color and my magnet looked like a chia pet. This residue remains in the trans with current flushing practices.

Sorry if I ruffled anyones feathers (I did say flushing was for some).

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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by Rich B
and my magnet looked like a chia pet.
LMAO!
 
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 11:28 AM
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Hmm many different opinions. Now I gotta decide if I should attempt to do it myself or have it flushed. Good points on both sides.

I dont think I will be installing the deep pan or the FT valve body because I want to remain stock. But thanks for those tips.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 12:16 PM
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<<<<<how does it measure both when at any given time half of it is in the transmission? >>>>>

I thought the same thing so I asked the manager .

Manager said, Measures total fluid going through machine, then he pointed to the 2 clear stacked tubes. 1 tube shows old fluid going into flush machine resovoir, other tube shows new fluid going into tranny. To play it safe I'll be going to another "EZ Lube" and see what they say. Thanks for the fast replies.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 12:29 PM
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Performance automatic pan. I like it.




 
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 12:37 PM
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This is not the most advanced way of flushing your tranny but it worked out great for me when I put my new monster box in.

What I did is get a nice clear hose that would fit over the fittings on one end and also fit over the air nozzle on the compressor. I got a nice 10 foot long piece of that hose and filled it with freash tranny fluid. Then I would hook it up to the tranny radiator hoses and run that fluid through it till it came out the other end in a can. I repeated that about 5 or 6 times and it flushed out my radiator really good. The fluid finally came out clear and clean towards the end.

After that I installed the neew filter setup that FORD is supposed to install with every tranny replacement and thats a secondary filter to just make sure its clean oil being cycled through.

Greg told me that is probably why my second tranny went out so fast (7,000 miles with no juice and only a 2lb lower at that time) cause the old shavings just went right back into the tranny from the radiator and ford never installed that filter kit on there.


Listen to greg guys, there isn't anyone on this site that knows the 4r100 better then that man.

Uh yeah I forgot, when you use the compressor only go about 20 to 25PSI.
 

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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 02:21 PM
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Called EZ Lube Corp Office..........They said ....when flush machine reads 17.4 quarts....That is the amount of New fluid ,used to flush tranny........ Tech and manager @ local store were misinformed


95 Saleen S351 stated....I dont think I will be installing the deep pan or the FT valve body because I want to remain stock. But thanks for those tips.

FT valve body easy install, worth every penny IMO. that w/ a Ford
deep sump tranny pan and filter...gives you Stock look w/better protection
 
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by RTKILLA

After that I installed the neew filter setup that FORD is supposed to install with every tranny replacement and thats a secondary filter to just make sure its clean oil being cycled through.

Greg told me that is probably why my second tranny went out so fast (7,000 miles with no juice and only a 2lb lower at that time) cause the old shavings just went right back into the tranny from the radiator and ford never installed that filter kit on there.


Listen to greg guys, there isn't anyone on this site that knows the 4r100 better then that man.

Uh yeah I forgot, when you use the compressor only go about 20 to 25PSI.
Actually, and maybe I'm confusing you with someone else, but didn't you have the stub tube that a tech tried to glue in place with some silicone? That caused a massive fluid leak that burned up that transmission, if I'm not confusing you with someone else. Regardless, the filter IS very important. If you burned up a tranny, the radiator is full of very small pieces of the old tranny that will kill the new one without the filter.

G

(that's a really pretty tranny in the picture, ain't it?)
 
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