Whats with the secrets about who's chip was in the truck when something bad happens??
Whats with the secrets about who's chip was in the truck when something bad happens??
I was just reading the blown motor thread that is now closed and I found it interesting that after the "who's chip was in the truck" question the thread was closed. I'm not saying thats why the thread was closed only that the request was made to close the thread and that question was not answered. I haven't chipped my truck and I like many others would benefit from the whole story. I have seen many threads that praise the Tuners and many threads that boast about how much better the truck performs with Tuner X's chip. Its only fair to hear about trouble stories also. Not that I wouldn't buy a chip from a Tuner because someone else had trouble, but if that someone else lived near me or used their trucks just like I would or shared any similarities to me I would be able to 'warn'/inform the tuner of that. I could then say to my tuner "Hey I saw where _______ blew his motor doing 100mph interstate driving (or something) and I want you to know that I do the same thing" and maybe I could get a chip that is safer for my driving habits/climate/mods/towing usage/or whatever. The whole story is always more helpful. Maybe we could have less blown motors and less of the arguements over should it be covered under warranty. But really all I care about is less blown motors.
Well as most people are going to say YOU PLAY YOU PAY. When ordering a chip it would probley be best to talk to the tuner and tell him the weather condiations your driving habits and such. Tell them what your goals are. Is the truck going to be a daily driver or a Weekend warrior. You just got to remember to stay with in the limits of the motor. These things arent bullet Proof. I would pick a tuner of your choice and talk to him about what you want to do with your truck
I would say that more important than the brand of chip is what was the chip programmed to do? For example a superchip could be programmed for more timing than another superchip...
Remember that when you install any aftermarket part or even drive over the speed limit (truck was designed for 70 mph or less driving) you may be subject to the You play you pay.
Remember that when you install any aftermarket part or even drive over the speed limit (truck was designed for 70 mph or less driving) you may be subject to the You play you pay.
No offense Black SVT but those are the common sense steps that everyone has taken so far. My point is - when something bad happens (that the Tuner nor the customer took into consideration when the chip was ordered) information about who's chip and what program or setting was in use could provide 'future' chip buyers with valuable info on how to avoid the same pitfall. Its obvious that the Tuners are good at what they do or we would hear about blown motors all the time. Its is also obvious that a modded motor can blow at no fault of the Tuner. However I'm willing to bet that everyone who has yet to order a chip but plan on chipping their truck in the future would give that extra info to their Tuner (if it was available) to try to make their chip safer for them.
Example: Lets say that 'Bling Bling Motorsports' burned the chip that was in a truck that blew its motor doing 110mph extended driving (for whatever reason) and I called 'Bling Bling' to buy my chip I could say to them that I saw where their chip was in a motor that blew doing some of the same stuff I'll be doing. 'Bling Bling' may have come up with a safer tune for this type of driving and could offer it to me to avoid another catastrophy.
If info is kept secret in situations such as this it doesn't allow us to learn from them. Many of us may benefit from safer tunes for specific driving habits. I may decide on a four way chip for -Economy/Race/Haulin' *** on the interstate/Stop and go Towing - the last two progams could be what keeps my motor together.
Example: Lets say that 'Bling Bling Motorsports' burned the chip that was in a truck that blew its motor doing 110mph extended driving (for whatever reason) and I called 'Bling Bling' to buy my chip I could say to them that I saw where their chip was in a motor that blew doing some of the same stuff I'll be doing. 'Bling Bling' may have come up with a safer tune for this type of driving and could offer it to me to avoid another catastrophy.
If info is kept secret in situations such as this it doesn't allow us to learn from them. Many of us may benefit from safer tunes for specific driving habits. I may decide on a four way chip for -Economy/Race/Haulin' *** on the interstate/Stop and go Towing - the last two progams could be what keeps my motor together.
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No offence taken
I agree with you on the tips and such and i agree with you on the 4 way chip for different settings
But motors do fail like you said it could go south and not even be anything the tuner did or you did. Lets say a rod breaks at 30mph in town becasue it has stress cracks of falty from the factory. Its all kinda risky business i have mods on my truck But i also have some money stashed away just in case it decides it wants to spit its guts all over the highway.
I agree with you on the tips and such and i agree with you on the 4 way chip for different settings
But motors do fail like you said it could go south and not even be anything the tuner did or you did. Lets say a rod breaks at 30mph in town becasue it has stress cracks of falty from the factory. Its all kinda risky business i have mods on my truck But i also have some money stashed away just in case it decides it wants to spit its guts all over the highway.
easterisland
The "You Play You Pay" rule is always in place. Wouldn't you prefer the 'best' tune for your game and money? Once again I'm not saying that a tuner has it in their power to prevent these things, but if they could tilt the odds in my favor a little more because of shared knowledge then let it be so.
Last edited by Nasty Wendy; Nov 4, 2002 at 01:07 AM.
I agree, I know the YOU PLAY, YOU PAY, and i know our trucks can come differently from the factory. And I agree with knowing what the chip was programmed to do, not WHO did it(like it was their fault). And I do agree with knowing the tuner and how the problem can be fixed with future purchases to avoid that pitfall. I can see that the tuners wouldn't want their name to be given, because it probably would look like it was their fault for selling that chip even though it wasn't. We all know that the tuners can pretty much all do the same with burning chips, but I would say let the info get out so some of us can benefit from it. A blown motor can be something alot of people can benefit from. IMHO. I'm not trying to start any fights, im just saying it may be good to know some things, sometimes...
p.s. Nasty, I like the "bling bling motorsports" simulation haha.
Keegan
p.s. Nasty, I like the "bling bling motorsports" simulation haha.
Keegan
It would do us all harm if we knew that somebody blew an engine with tuners X chip. Here's why. The tuner most likely knows, and it probably didn't even have anything to do with the chip. Tuner X now sells 10% of the chips that he used to. So he stops selling them. Tuner Y and Z see this big opportunity to make some more cash. Supply and demand. Demand goes up supply goes down, price sky rockets. You personally have nothing to gain by nowing.
As far as the "You play you pay". Mostly BS. 100 is nothing. Hell we can all do that in a few short seconds. The next time that your doing 100, think to yourself now if my motor blows it's my fault. Yea right. It should be made to withstand 100 for many hours at a time. And if it's cruzing at 100 guess what. ANY TUNE WILL WORK.
Thanks for locking that thread.
I rest.
As far as the "You play you pay". Mostly BS. 100 is nothing. Hell we can all do that in a few short seconds. The next time that your doing 100, think to yourself now if my motor blows it's my fault. Yea right. It should be made to withstand 100 for many hours at a time. And if it's cruzing at 100 guess what. ANY TUNE WILL WORK.
Thanks for locking that thread.
I rest.



This one will most likely get locked also.