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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 01:32 PM
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Question 20 inch reps ?

Is the ride much worse? Is 20 lbs per wheel that noticeable? Does it effect performance much? I'm trying to decide if I should drop an extra $1500 for the light 20's (weld evo's), or stick with the reps.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 01:56 PM
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I have the reps....they look awesome....must say there is a performance difference though. They weighed in at 48#'s each without tires. There is a noticeable decline in acceleration off the line....takes a little bit to get going....but damn they look good

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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 02:00 PM
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Thanks for the info. I really didn't want to spend the extra $, especially with all the L's being solen lately. If that's the case, I think I might go with the evo's.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 02:53 PM
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Not to rain on anyones day but I couldn't tell any difference with the 20" rims and tires on my truck. Sure the ride isn't as smooth, but it handles better with the thiner sidewalls on there and they look awesome!!!!!!!!

Don't worry about the performance cause your not going to notice.

 
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 03:06 PM
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I noticed....I think if you didn't is because you didn't want to. There is a noticeable difference of off the line acceleration. Think about it, you added over 150#'s of unsprung weight....that's the #1 killer of acceleration.

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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 03:55 PM
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Thats right!

I noticed....I think if you didn't is because you didn't want to. There is a noticeable difference of off the line acceleration. Think about it, you added over 150#'s of unsprung weight....that's the #1 killer of acceleration.
I totally agree with ya...look at my wheel..It weights 80lbs with tire....

 
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 04:01 PM
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yup, thats what the HD stock rims weigh. 80 lbs
 
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 04:02 PM
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Nice truck Kuan !

Love the rims

Jack
 
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by red00Lightning
I noticed....I think if you didn't is because you didn't want to. There is a noticeable difference of off the line acceleration. Think about it, you added over 150#'s of unsprung weight....that's the #1 killer of acceleration.

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(1) 150 lbs?

(2) Weight period is the killer of acceleration. You must mean "rotational mass," not "unsprung weight." Unsprung weight has to do with the ability of a suspension to deal with the racing surface.

(3) On a 4,700 lb. truck, even adding 150 lbs. (?) may not be noticeable. That's only 3.0% more weight. I doubt I could notice that under any circumstances. Can it be measured at the end of the 1/4 mile? Sure. Can it be felt? Doubtful.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by Tim Skelton
(1) 150 lbs?
They weigh 48#'s each without tires....it was a guesstimate of what the addition would be with the larger tires as well.

(2) Weight period is the killer of acceleration. You must mean "rotational mass," not "unsprung weight." Unsprung weight has to do with the ability of a suspension to deal with the racing surface.
The rotational weight is completely independent of the weight gains....it's not the same as throwing 150lbs in the truck bed. I said "unsprung weight" and meant it. "Sprung" weight is a term used to describe the parts of an automobile that are supported by the front and rear springs. They suspend the vehicle's frame, body, engine, and the power train above the wheels. These are quite heavy assemblies. The "unsprung" weight includes wheels and tires, brake assemblies, the rear axle assembly, and other structural members not supported by the springs.

(3) On a 4,700 lb. truck, even adding 150 lbs. (?) may not be noticeable. That's only 3.0% more weight. I doubt I could notice that under any circumstances. Can it be measured at the end of the 1/4 mile? Sure. Can it be felt? Doubtful.
Again it's not the same as just any 150lbs...it's 150lbs that your engine and drivetrain have to account for and support. It makes a big difference, trust me...I live it every day with the L

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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by red00Lightning
I noticed....I think if you didn't is because you didn't want to. There is a noticeable difference of off the line acceleration. Think about it, you added over 150#'s of unsprung weight....that's the #1 killer of acceleration.

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I don't know about you guys but when I lay on the truck WOT I can blow my street tires off the truck for a good 1/2 a block atleast! How am I going to notice a weight difference when I can't get traction anyway?

I'm sure your going to loose performance, but its nothing your ever going to notice on the street cause you can't use all the power off the line anyway.

If I wear you I wouldn't worry about an extra 100 to 150 pounds of rim and tire cause the look is going to make you forget it anyway.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by RTKILLA


If I wear you I wouldn't worry about an extra 100 to 150 pounds of rim and tire cause the look is going to make you forget it anyway.

This I can't argue with...they sure are pretty

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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 08:32 PM
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Thumbs up

Just bought the 20 inch harley wheels with the new OEM center caps, wrapped with GY HP ultra 295/40/20 mounted and balanced with lugs, shipped for $2550. 3 year warranty on chrome, from the wheel exchange. I could have got them for less from AAArims, with the blank chrome, or old OEM caps. I like the new one's better. they should be here by friday.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 09:48 PM
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post pics when you get em on! And have fun lugging those babies around! They'll probably weigh over 80lbs a piece with the wider tires you are getting on them
 
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 10:55 PM
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Like RTKILLA said, I don't get traction anyway if I drop my foot, And I'll be the 1st Black 2001 L with the new harley wheels.
 
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