If it is losing that much oil there should be BIG, REALLY BIG oil spots all over the engine, the underside and all over your driveway ... Follow the drips... SHouldnt be hardto figure out where 3 quarts are day are pouring out of

 

Doug, you would think that much oil would leave a spot, but I've got a story for ya (non L related). My friend just put a 350 Deluxe crate motor from GM in his '69 Camaro and it uses approximately 2 quarts of oil in 60 miles of driving. No spots, no smoke, no apparent leaks. It just don't figure. Like I said not L related, but it kinda fits with the subject at hand.

 

You keep trying to tell me i shouldnt have driven the truck, seems like driveability to me LOL, I have no idea what failed Sawgrass Ford didnt look at it other than to say there were no external oil leaks although I wouldnt really take anyhting they said to heart after the **** they have pulled.

It relates because I shouldn't have to lose 750 bucks a day by not driving the truck that is still running to work until i could get into an alternate method of transportation. I do freelance work, Lighting in the movie business, I currently am working on Fast and the Furious 2 and they are paying me very well If I worked everyday out of the year I might make 200g's but I usually only work 6-8 months out of the year because there arent always movies in town to work on. Most movies dont pay nearly as much as this one which is all the more reason not to miss a day. I average bout 60-100g's a year depending how much work comes in town.

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QUOTE]Originally posted by superfords

<side note> sorry if I have become petty or arguementative on this post, i don't know why exactly. i'll go quietly now... [/QUOTE]

NP, I dont really understand why you and Navi want to attack me and act like this is somehow my fault, and I dont understand why you try and pick apart my every reply as if I am the enemy sorry if my replies are rude but I just find it offensive being called or implied as being a liar.

 

Argent , I dont think they are really trying to attack you, really.. Man you make a lota money.. can you spare a few bucks I need some mods... > ... Lol ........... Ok peace man and good luck with your truck

 

i think it's just common sense not to drive my truck if i have to add 3 QUARTS A DAY to my new truck..

i could understand if it was a 1963 f100 with elevendy-kabillion miles on it.... but not if it used 3 QUARTS a day!!


i would have called a cab & then arranged for a rental by cell phone on the way to work in the cab. but, thats just me.. i'm a dumb redneck.

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about your dealership problems... take it to another dealer.. if they wont do anything with it either, call the place that your loan is thru & explain to them that you were sold a lemon & that you don't intend to make payments till you get a running vehicle.

i don't know if that would work, but it's something that i would do. LOL

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ArgentL,

I'm not attacking you, but just letting you, as the owner, know that you also have some responsibility when something fails on your truck. Maybe it's just me, but I would never drive my vehicle under the circumstances you describe. Just because you have a warranty, you still have a responsibility to properly take care of your vehicle or risk losing your warranty. What could have been something minor (an oil pressure sensor leaking), could turn into something major(a broken rod or crank) by continuing to drive it while low on oil (or possibily out of oil), especially a high performance engine such as a Lightning (if it were a child, it would be child abuse lol). Don't take that last statement out of context, it was just a light joke.

Don't take these comments so personally, as we are just sharing information and opinions. You brought the subject up in this forum, and by doing so, you have opened yourself up to varying opinions, good or bad.

Superfords and myself tend to look at things from the mechanics side of things, as he is a Ford technician and I grew up having a dad who worked as a technician in a Ford dealership and also as an independent shop owner (specializing in Fords) for several years (I worked there while going to college).

Good luck with your truck, as I hope it all works out. Keep us posted.

 

"...just letting you, as the owner, know that you also have some responsibility when something fails on your truck."

That sounds like a line out a regional reps mouth.

 

Actually it's pretty logical thinking. Having a warranty doesn't give you a license to abuse your vehicle (although I know several people who have done that).

With having a dad in the automotive repair business for over 30 years and growing up around his shop, it's amazing the idiots out there who actually own vehicles. I could write a book on some of the stories I heard over the years. An example would be:

A car owner came into the shop and had a brake job done on their vehicle. A little over a week later they show up madder than hell, claiming we screwed up their vehicle because it had a knock in the engine. We checked the vehicle, and found it had very little oil in it and that the pressure sending unit had gone bad and was leaking oil. The owner never checked the oil and obviously was driving the vehicle with very little oil and now demanded that we were to repair their engine for free. Now tell me how the two are related and who is at fault?

It seems that to often people are quick to blame the repair facility and don't really understand what is all involved. I'm not saying this is the case on ArgentL, but just merely pointing out examples the responsibilty of the owner. I also agree that there are shops out there that aren't very good and have screwed many owners over, but their again, it's up to us, the owner, to take on the responsibility of finding a reputable shop.

 

It sure sounded like that.

It shouldn't be the responsibility of the owner to find a reputable shop when a vehicle still has a factory warranty. It should be the responsibility of FMCO to take care of that.

 

There have been lots of story tellers come here... Some trolls, some just young, some had trouble relaying what happened in words and some were just making **** up...

We are not trying to pick on you but to make sure the story you tell makes sense....

I make significantly less than $100-200k a year but would not think twice about calling Roadside assistance to get my truck from my driveway on a flatbed AND call Enterprise Rent a Car to deliver me a car to go to work... The rental ( if I had to pay ) would be what $25-50 a day ?) a week of rentals would cost less than 1/2 days pay according to your #'s and your truck would be cheaper and easier to get warrantied.

Just another take on the same situation...

Once again... I am NOT picking on you just offering another way to react to the same situation....

Doug

 

In my opinion, whenever someone comes on a forum such as this and throws out their income as some form of legitimizing agent, they lose all credibility with me. Anyone who spends $30K for a vehicle (used or not) and drives it knowing it loses 3 quarts of oil daily is not smart enough to be making judgement calls concerning the dealerships decision. Heck, if you drove your truck to me and stated it loses three quarts daily and knocks when I drive over 2,000 rpms, I'd tell you to keep driving it too.........Hope your a better grip than you are a mechanic.

 

[b]It shouldn't be the responsibility of the owner to find a reputable shop when a vehicle still has a factory warranty. It should be the responsibility of FMCO to take care of that.[b]

You're beginning to blow this way out of proportion and taking my words out of context. Let's not turn this into another one of these argumentative threads.

Do you think it's appropriate to drive a vehicle that is going through 3 quarts of oil a day and shows up at a dealership dry of oil? What is the owners responsibilty if a vehicle under warranty has a problem? Should they keep driving it without any recourse and possibly cause further damage?

 

WTF Did I abuse? The engine already had a rod knock...it needed to be replaced regardless...the dealer themselves felt the truck was driveable enough to tell me I could leave with it and yet you have the nerve to say im abusing the truck and this is all my fault? Sheesh some people are pretty damn far out of touch with reality

 

So I get off work at 11pm the truck starts knocking on the ride home and im supposed to pull over and call the tow truck to come get me when im 70 miles from my house and I have ot be back to work at 7am? What rental company do you use that will deliver a rental car to you between midnight and 5:30am?

 

WTF World do you live in? its supposed ot be my responsibilty to FIND a reputable shop?!?!?! Good Lord...in my world its is Fords job to insure that all dealers bearing the Ford logo are reputable and if they arent then they take measures to correct whatever problems occur. Which is exactly what been done at this point, they even apologised to me for all the hassle that i've had to go through and yet you still somehow feel the right to say this is my fault.

LOL you've lost touch with reality dude.