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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 12:03 PM
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Question 02 engine noise in the morning

HI

I'm new to this site and also new to my 02 lightning.

I have a question?.?????.....

Just had the oil changed for the first time at the 3000 mile.
brought it home and the next morning the engine now has a noise in it that was not there before the change. Sounds like the lifters or a rod bearning. But it goes away after warming up to normal temp. Also after it sits for a couple of hours it does it again untill it warms up then all is norm. Any Ideas?:

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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 12:07 PM
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There are tons of issues with the first oil change and noise....

Did you put Synthetic in? If so get it out, and wait till 10,000 miles. Did you use the Junk 5w20? If so get it out, 5W30 should be a minimum. These motors do make noise some, as they are roller motors.


What weight & type oil did you use? and how much?
 
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 12:08 PM
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My '01 did that too immediately after an oil change, until I switched to Mobil-1 5W-30 full synthetic. Some say the 5W-20 that Ford specs is too thin.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 12:13 PM
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Roller motor? I thought that term was usually associated with pushrod engines with roller cams?
 
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 12:53 PM
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the oil came from the ford dealer where I bought the truck and they told me they use only ford oil 5w20 with a ford oil filter. they did the change what was in it before the oil change? can I stop the noise with another oil change with 5w30 or 10w30. thanks for helping me out they told me they put 6 qts. in

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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 01:10 PM
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02 L, 6K miles, 2 oil changes, Ford 5W-20 & FL820S each time.

No strange noises.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 01:20 PM
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Is the noise comparable to "marbles rattling around in tin can" noise? Or, the motor sounds somewhat like a diesel engine?

If so, I had it for years in my '99 Lightning. This is at 23,000 miles and an Ford oil/filter change about every 3,000 miles or so. The noise does not seem to change at each cold start, and goes away pretty quickly with warm-up.

From previous comments I have read on the Board, the noise is due to the pistons, if I remember correctly.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 01:31 PM
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If its piston slap the truck is going back!!!!!!!!
I just traded in a 2001 gmc pickup that sounded liked a pile of crap because of piston slap/ and gm told me to get use to it. so i bought a ford and i certainly won't put up with that junk sound.
So I think it will go back to ford for them to fix


I was just hoping for a simple solution like maybe a diff. oil like 5w30 or 10w30 or a better filter

cant believe after an oil change it would make a noise that it didnt make before it dont make sence


thank all of you for your input

bob mr unhappy with his lightning true blue
 
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 01:59 PM
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I like to stick with Ford's specs. Think about it. With all the vehicles they have to honor for warranty, why would their engineers not specify the right oil? HOWEVER; I do add a qt. of Lucas oil stabilizer with each oil change. No dry starts, no noise.
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 02:01 PM
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MY 02 did it too. I've gone to 5w-30 mobil one and it's about 50% gone/quieter. (currently at 4950 miles)

Gonna try 10w-30 next weekend and will post.

BTW: Aren't these pistons forged?

If so? In years past on the old hi-po stuff we used to have a little piston slap until the forged pistons got fully expanded (warmup). Simply normal physics of a forged piston vs a cast.

I've not had this out in the cold yet. Do you guys notice it more with a cold motor (30F) than at warmer weather condidions?

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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 02:06 PM
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DennisWeise,

I R one. UM... (I have to be carefull here)...

Your assumptions do not nessesarily have merit.

WOT
 
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 02:27 PM
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The noise you are talking about could be the s/c cavitating?
 
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 05:01 PM
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wydopnthrtl

I hear you. And as a matter of fact I think they suggest against additives too but I believe in Lucas products and... my motor does run smooth.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 06:32 PM
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i too had the marbles sound on my 02 after the 1rst oil change. they soon went away and now after my second change they came back, hardly noticeable and are now gone again. i'm not worried about it, it doesn't seem to affect anything.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 06:58 PM
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The sounds you are refering to are normal and should not be worried about. Besides you cannot hear it over the blower whine
 
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