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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 09:01 PM
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Cool I'm getting into H2O Ingestion. More Boost.

http://www.racetep.com/wik.html#trbh20

I think I`m going to dive in. say 16-18 pounds of boost with this type system. What is the concensus on that much boost with H2o/meth/alcohol injection and stock rods. If this is run consistently with higher boost will it save the stock rods?
Is the boost or the detonation the rod buster? Seems like it would quench pre-ignition well.

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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 09:09 PM
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If you decide to go the inj route, make certain to not get a kit with a retrofitted winshield wiper pump
 
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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 09:22 PM
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I am currently running a Snow Performance Water/Methanol Injection system on my 2001 L. I am still completing some testing with the system, but initial results are very promising. To much initial information to post on here. I can feel a differance in power and my latest Track results are showing .15 - .20 ET reduction with this system. http://www.snowperformance.net/

By the Way a windshield washer pump does not provide the pressure required to properly inject water/meth. Just not enough PSI to push thru the atomization nozzles.

If you would like detailed info, just shoot me an Email !

This system works well and is very well thought out.

jlund29@comcast.net

Thanks,

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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 09:37 PM
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Re: I'm getting into H2O Ingestion. More Boost.

Originally posted by Twisted99
http://www.racetep.com/wik.html#trbh20

I think I`m going to dive in. say 16-18 pounds of boost with this type system.
Water Injection on your beast? I'm getting scared. Hmmm, not sure about all this just yet.

P.s. Didn't Ford just get done putting in a new engine for you?
 
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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 09:38 PM
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http://www.aquamist.co.uk/

Another really good link on the subject..


BFB..yeah...that's one reason I'm looking at this stuff.
 

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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 10:14 PM
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i'm using these guys, when it comes to water spray, they've got from mild to wild. click on gaseous intercooling
http://www.carrollsupercharging.com/index2.html
 
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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 11:06 PM
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MRBBQMAN...

I like the fact they speak to "Rod and bearing damage or the lack of with their systems.....Thanks
 
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Old Jul 10, 2002 | 02:51 AM
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http://www.aquamist.co.uk/cp/cp.html
Ive been reading over this site for the past hour and am still confused. But if I read right, this system just injects straight water into the intake? I have only been "in" to cars for about 2 1/2 years but last I heard injecting water into the intake stream would totally destroy your engine I know im missing something here because if what I just said were true then there is no way they would even be selling this system. The MF2 "computer" is very cool. I dont quite understand how it works though. Ill type how I think it works, then someone who actually knows about this tell me if im right.

The MF2 computer is hooked up to the water pump(its own, not the engines), something that tells it RPM, a pressure switch, a warning light, your TPS, and power. The FM2 monitors the pressure switch and the TPS and when they reach a programmed pressure/position, it starts to inject water. Depending on the pressure and the throttle position, it varies the amount of water that is injected?
Is that right? The web site makes it sound much more complicated then that but I think thats how it works. Someone help!

Thanks
 
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Old Jul 10, 2002 | 08:26 AM
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shooting water down your boosted engine is nothing new. it's WWII airplane technology. it's actually cleans your engine at WOT with 6-8psi and up. it doesn't really add power by itself, but allows you to add more power safely
 
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Old Jul 10, 2002 | 08:52 AM
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I think this was a subject sometime ago, but has anyone looked into Propane injection?

Also, do these require a chip reburn?

Jim
 
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Old Jul 10, 2002 | 09:18 AM
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i know the diesel guys use propane which is really hi octane, like 130. they don't have detonation issues like we do. to use it's cooling effect you'd have to inject it as an expanding liquid, which would be highly explosive for our fragile internals. i've used it on my dodge when i was running dual fuels, but it did not have the detonation quashing abilities that the water spray did, but i was flowing the propane as a vapor.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2002 | 10:22 AM
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The methanol/water mix will have secondary intercooling qualities, as well as fuel properties.

It appears that you will need to run a more agressive timing setting to get the full advantage. If you are not detonating now, you probably won't see the major increase in power that some claim.

The methanol, should add fuel, but will also have a tendency to lean your mixture out slightly.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2002 | 12:21 PM
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LEAKY COOLER

My old truck always ran a little better, and quicker with all of it's 3 leaky coolers....or something
 
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Old Jul 10, 2002 | 12:39 PM
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1 more for 2500

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Old Jul 10, 2002 | 01:05 PM
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The main purpose for water injection is that it slows the fuel burn, so you get more efficient burn of the fuel.

Also, back in the dark ages (pre 70's) when your engine started experiencing run on after you shut it off, it was common practice to remove the air cleaner, kick the idle up to around 2500, then slowly pour about a half quart of water in the carburator (not fast enough to stall the engine, but right on the virge of a stall). By doing that, any carbon deposits on the pistons or valves absorbed the water, then on the ignition cycle, the water vaporized, exploded the carbon depost apart, and out the exhaust it went and usually eliminated the problems associated with carbon deposits which can be hot enough to ignite the incomming fuel (dieseling). You did want to use too much as it could wash the oil off the piston skirts causing more damage than it fixed.
 
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