Results from my otherwise stock
00' w/ 80mm Pro M - K&N cone filter

380rwhp
448rwtq

webshots isn't working to well for me but, here goes

I'm pretty pleased. There were 2 other 00' L's there stock and they pulled 326rwhp and 337rwhp right where they should be. All of us had about 20K too.

The one that pulled 326 rwhp had a first pull at 373 rwhp with only a C&L 85mm maf. That's a difference of 57rwhp!

 

Very hard to believe that...........

--Joe

 

Thats a very impressive jump in horsepower. How does the 80mm pro m make that much more hp's than the stock 80 mm? I'm not being smart or anything. I just don't know how it happens.

 

Hard to believe but true.

This was the ****** organization's dyno day. ~10 other guys witnessed this so say what you will and we all have our dyno graph's.

I pulled 380rwhp with only the Pro M. The picture doesn't work but you can view the dyno graph. I had three pulls also, no fluke.

There's alway na-sayers huh?

 

I'm not a nay sayer. I just want someone to explain to me how the pro m makes 50 more hp's. I just dont understand.

 

The way it was explain to me by the dyno tech. is that it all has to do with the Air/Fuel ratio. Some one said you want about 12.5 all the way through the rpm range not tappering off. Pro M does this. I dumps in more fuel and does it through out the rpms. Also the tech stated Pro M in some way diverts the air going through the sensor differently. I'm not sure how he said. But if you look at my Air/Fuel ratio in the graph you see the Pro M is roughly straight.

 

Thanks, but where is the graph?

 

More info please !

Do you have a chip? Was it tuned for the Pro-M ? By whom? What kind of program were you pulling with?

There are lots of things that can affect the dyno numbers. Among them are the tuner's familiarity with the Pro-M vs stock, A/F ratios with and without the pro-M, etc...

Maybe it would would be good to hear what the tuners think on this one.

 

Hey Guys,

The graph one post as an image but here is a link.



poor res. pic, i'll fix it

and I have only only the Pro M 80mm and K&N cone filter. No chip, no exhaust, no nothing!

 

ok,

 

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Nobody else said this but a 50 HP gain with only a Pro-M meter is BS or the dyno operator can't interpret him own data. Just go to the Pro-M site and you will see that the claim that you are making is over twice as high as the best claim that Pro-M has ever made for a lightning application. The other statement about how their meter samples air is crap. In 99% of the cases it is just the reworked stock MAS with their designed body. Understand this the Pro-M meter has been tested on hundreds of Lightning applications and those results have not been achieved.

 

Follow the link to see the graph:

http://community.webshots.com/storag...LrGAnDa_ph.jpg

It looks like the dyno plot is all wrong. Shouldn't the torque and HP curves intersect at 5200 RPMs?

The slope of the curves is also goofy. This doesn't look like other Lightning dyno results I've seen.

Sorry, but the jury rejects the evidence.

 

Forbidden Link. Can't access the graph. You may want to attach a pic. instead of linking.

 

Yes, ALL dyno graphs are to cross at 5250. Engines don't make hp, they only make torque. To convert torque which is measured in ft-lbs to hp which is the ability to do work over a given period of time there is a conversion factor in there of 5250, therefore hp and torque always cross at 5250.

The dyno graph does not cross at 5250 shown because the hp and torque on this graph are measured on different scales. If they were on the same scale they would cross.

Everyone there did a double take when the first otherwise stock 00' expect for the C&L MAF went and pulled 373rwhp. To confirm this the stock air box and filter were put back in place and a new run was made resulting in 326rwhp.

If you guys can't believe it then that is your opinion to have. But I have my first run dyno pull and my third sitting right in front of me. I was there along with many other L's and we all saw it. Fact is you na-sayers didn't.

This was a reputable race shop along with an experienced staff. All I can say is I'm keepin my Pro M. If you don't believe the dyno results, then so be it. Come on down and we'll doing again, then you can pay me the $1000 I bet you before that.