Calling Drkone
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Calling Drkone
Drkone,
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"The run I made next to you last night, the truck hooked pretty well, but the second run I made (next to SVT150 on the plate)
was utter crap!
I spun really bad, and I feathered the throttle a bit on that run as well... "
That was me that you fell prey to. Don't feel to bad, I'm not running stock. Not to burst your bubble, but last night they had coated the track with VHT minutes before we came into the tech line. I've NEVER seen that before on a Wednesday at Speedworld. My 60 foots were consistantly way better than any other night out at Speedworld. Spade$ kept saying the track was really slick, but his truck ran like crap because he did his cutouts, he thought the track was slick too, but it was not. Basically, I think that was the best track conditions I have ever seen there.
Once you learn how to launch, you will be in the 2.0xx-2.1xx times, but don't expect to do any better here in Phoenix on F1's. The guys in different states are running like 1.8-1.9's on F1's--trust me you will NEVER see that here. I also noticed that you were not heating up and smoking your tires. Unless you do so, you won't hook. And if I am not mistaken, you were running into the water box---BIG NO NO. If you run a treaded street tire into the water box, all you do is pick up water between the treads and then drop it on the track as you start to move, thus killing your traction, and ruining it for the following guys. That is a way way to common mistake that almost everyone makes. When you stage, try going slighthly to either side of the middle of the lane (thus avoiding other peoples water tracks). Back your truck just before the water box and power brake it and light the tires until you see the smoke from your side mirrors. Then let up on the brake, launch, clearing the crap from your tires. Hit the brake, stop, and launch and if you spin, go it again. If you hook good, then get to the staging. After you do this numerous times, you will know how good your truck will hook before you launch at staging. Bring rpms up to no more that 1000 and roll on the throttle instead of just hammering it hard.
Hope this give you some insight from my past 2 years of running with my Lightning.
Quoted:
"The run I made next to you last night, the truck hooked pretty well, but the second run I made (next to SVT150 on the plate)
was utter crap!
I spun really bad, and I feathered the throttle a bit on that run as well... "
That was me that you fell prey to. Don't feel to bad, I'm not running stock. Not to burst your bubble, but last night they had coated the track with VHT minutes before we came into the tech line. I've NEVER seen that before on a Wednesday at Speedworld. My 60 foots were consistantly way better than any other night out at Speedworld. Spade$ kept saying the track was really slick, but his truck ran like crap because he did his cutouts, he thought the track was slick too, but it was not. Basically, I think that was the best track conditions I have ever seen there.
Once you learn how to launch, you will be in the 2.0xx-2.1xx times, but don't expect to do any better here in Phoenix on F1's. The guys in different states are running like 1.8-1.9's on F1's--trust me you will NEVER see that here. I also noticed that you were not heating up and smoking your tires. Unless you do so, you won't hook. And if I am not mistaken, you were running into the water box---BIG NO NO. If you run a treaded street tire into the water box, all you do is pick up water between the treads and then drop it on the track as you start to move, thus killing your traction, and ruining it for the following guys. That is a way way to common mistake that almost everyone makes. When you stage, try going slighthly to either side of the middle of the lane (thus avoiding other peoples water tracks). Back your truck just before the water box and power brake it and light the tires until you see the smoke from your side mirrors. Then let up on the brake, launch, clearing the crap from your tires. Hit the brake, stop, and launch and if you spin, go it again. If you hook good, then get to the staging. After you do this numerous times, you will know how good your truck will hook before you launch at staging. Bring rpms up to no more that 1000 and roll on the throttle instead of just hammering it hard.
Hope this give you some insight from my past 2 years of running with my Lightning.
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From: Phx, AZ
Peter, sorry for the delay, thanks for the hints...
I actually went into this with the notion that I did not want to mess any part of the staging procedure up at all, being a newbie.
I did actually go around the box everytime, I just hope my wife did the same
I didn't smoke the tires this time around, I will have to try next time possibly, although I have read on street tires, it really doesn't make that much of a difference? Too hard a compound?
I have read, to just clean them off, and you are good...?
I think I may have "mashed" that run instead of "feathering the throttle" like I should have, but I figure it will just take a bit of practice...
Hmmm, so they did lay down the VHT huh?
Cool, thought maybe they didn't on Wednesdays or something?
Yeah, I'm looking at our times right now, and I see you cut a 2.02 60' time, that would be nice to shoot for!
Heh, you would have killed me anyway running a 13.2! Nice run!
I just saw your tailights like halfway down the track after I finally got traction!
Thanks alot for the tips, hopefully I'll hook up with all of you next time I'm out there!
I actually went into this with the notion that I did not want to mess any part of the staging procedure up at all, being a newbie.
I did actually go around the box everytime, I just hope my wife did the same
I didn't smoke the tires this time around, I will have to try next time possibly, although I have read on street tires, it really doesn't make that much of a difference? Too hard a compound?
I have read, to just clean them off, and you are good...?
I think I may have "mashed" that run instead of "feathering the throttle" like I should have, but I figure it will just take a bit of practice...
Hmmm, so they did lay down the VHT huh?
Cool, thought maybe they didn't on Wednesdays or something?
Yeah, I'm looking at our times right now, and I see you cut a 2.02 60' time, that would be nice to shoot for!
Heh, you would have killed me anyway running a 13.2! Nice run!
I just saw your tailights like halfway down the track after I finally got traction!
Thanks alot for the tips, hopefully I'll hook up with all of you next time I'm out there!
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From: PHX,AZ
I've gotten 1.90's out there w/my et streets.only a few though.lots of 1.98-2.0's.Have gotten 1.88 @ Firebird during the Truckin' Nats.But it was a pretty big event with lots of fast cars.Also was about 85* out.I've got a buddy who schedules the big events @ Firebird,I want to try and get a private track event for us following a major event.Don't know what it might cost,but if we get enough guys it shouldn't be too bad.I'll let you'all know.-Dave.
