Hi, me and my sister were just talking about radar detectors/jammers and she says there worthless. She just finished the explorer academy. explorers are like junior cops. she says that one of her cop friends says that jammers/detectors are worthless because once you recieve the siganl on the detector, the cop already has your speed. I told her there has been tons of tests that show that detectors do do something. Just the other day, i was in my frinds truck. He has the V1 detector. We were coming up to a turn, and about 50 yards before it the V1 went off. I dont remember what I read but it did go off. As soon as we turned the corner, we saw one of those trailors that has the big display that shows the speed limit then shows your speed. That right there is proff enough but she still doesnt believe me. Do you guys have any data that has been collected or something that proves detectors do do something and that they show up a radar before the gun gets your speed?? I know there are some cops on here. Any of you have input?

thanks for your help

 

The only data I can offer is that mine has saved me from many,many tickets.

 

Her cop friend is refering to instant on radar which won't be detected unless the cop guns someone ahead of you. Those roadside 'your speed' things use a low power always on radar which has very limited range when compared to what cops use.

 

Deus is right, a radar Detector will not help at all with the Instant On/Off radar. A jammer may help but I am not to sure....

SOMETIMES, you can pick up the instant on/off when they shoot someone in front of you, but it gives VERY little time to slow down....

 

Mine has saved me bookoo's of tickets!!! If your in traffic and a cop is clocking cars ahead of you, you know about it well before you get there! Mine has went off in excess of a mile or better in these instances on long stretches of hwy.
If you are running alone, hauling a$$ and all of a sudden you radar goes ape s***, you are probably screwed. If they "hit" you instantly, there is nothing you can do.
You will benefit greatly from a radar. Knock on wood, I havent had a ticket in 12 yrs.!!! (Now watch me get one a day for braggin'! )

 

For the most part, radar detectors (regardless of manufacturers claims) will be ineffective against modern police radar techniques. Please allow me to be VERY general for a moment...

If your detector is exposed to a "constant" source...such as those roadside "Slow Down" Radar Units or selected traffic details...it will detect the signal and emit a warning tone or light.

This also applies to situations where officers are doing area coverage to "slow down" speeders in a pre-determined, selected area. By actually using a cop instead of a trailer there are inherent added benefits (the officer can actually write a citation if need be and "high" visibility of the patrol unit). Both of these situations are really planned events with a specific purpose...to slow down the average motorist.

There are limitations with the standard radar units (wide cone, requires specific positioning for accuracy, picks up larger vehicles first, blah blah blah), however, with practice they can be used very effectively on the unwary/inattentive morotist. Later units have a trigger mechanism (instant on) to activate and one can just wait for the passing motorist and "bing"...gotcha'!

The newer laser units are even more accurate (at a greater distance) as one can pick a specific vehicle and not just "cover" an area. Once again, waiting until the motorist is in range and "bing"...gotcha'!

As of yet I have not met a single motorist, with a detector or jammer, that was successful against either of these tactics (most with detectors usually toss them in the back seat so I would not see them or out of disgust because they did not work).

One category of radar is unique...photo radar! Same basic technology with a photograph of the driver/vehicle...very hard to argue. Many urban area law enforcement agencies that employ this technology have problems with it (emergency vehicles being snared along with John an Jane Q. Public!)

Long story short...it can't hurt, but it sure can be expensive!

Better yet...drive carefully, watch the road in front of you, and be responsible. If you are stopped by an officer just be courteous, don't make it a guessing game, and tell him that you lost track of your speed and recognize the inherent dangers associated with proper driving.

Most officers (I emphasize most) DO NOT enjoy issuing citations (court on your day off, court in the middle of your scheduled vacation, crabby judges, etc...). However, they need to know that you recognized a "danger" to the public and you presented them with a viable option other than the ticket...something other than the old "Gimme' a break...I got one of these last week!" routines.

On approximately 90% of the citations I have written were based on the demeanor of the driver when I first spoke with him/her. The officer usually has total discretion and a crappy attitude ("Why aren' t you out cathcing REAL criminals?!") only ensures that you will end up in that magical 10%. Citation issued and with you being dealt with, I can then get back to catching "REAL" criminals.

 

So, a detector isnt goin to do squat for you unless there is a cop tagging people in front of you or its one of those always on type like the trailors on the side fo the road? Right?

What about jammers?
Gottafast1 said he has not yet met a guy/girl that it has worked. but doesnt that mean that they do work? he didnt pull them over, right? maybe im confused.

Here is a little scenario(sp?) I just came up with:
First off, lets say the truck has a jammer and a detector.
Your cruising down a highway that is for the most part empty, maybe you see 2 cars every 5 minutes, and your goin 30mph over the speed limit with you detector and jammer on. All of a sudden you hear you detector go off, beeeeep, then you say o *****. While all this is happening the jammer is blocking the radar. Then you slow down to the speed limit, turn off your jammer, and let the cop get a reading where he wolnt pull you over. Wolnt this work?

One more thing
Can you use a LASERjammer and a RADARjammer at the same time. The two i am looking at are the Scorpion XP radar jammer and the Blinder MT-10 laser jammer. One does radar and the other does laser.

 

ribbing some cop buddies -

"I don't even know why you guys bother with those silly radar guns, with my V1, I know where you guys are before you even see me" And 90% of the time, it's true.

A radar detector is a tool, nothing more. If not used correctly, it won't do a thing for you. But, they DO work if used correctly, or there wouldn't be a market for them. If you fail to heed the warning(s), you get caught. If you fail to use an F body driver as a blocker, you might get caught with instant on... Speed responsibly !


Finally, we get this little gem -
" On approximately 90% of the citations I have written were based on the demeanor of the driver when I first spoke with him/her. The officer usually has total discretion and a crappy attitude ("Why aren' t you out cathcing REAL criminals?!") only ensures that you will end up in that magical 10%. Citation issued and with you being dealt with, I can then get back to catching "REAL" criminals."




Is it any wonder why there's contempt for cops with attitudes like that ? So you're basically saying that if you don't like the person, they get a ticket, but if you do like them, they get off?

That it happens at all is shameful. To admit it is disgraceful.

 

Dear Dave,
as far as your last comment let me explain a little something too ya. You take a job to try to help/ do your part/ feel good about yourself, whatever, (cause you it an't going to get rich at it) in your town and you get paid very poorly to do it. your never there quik enough and the person the see's you speeding to get there is complaining that your driving to fast until they call for help.....catch 22 (don't even get me started ) all most ask for is respect and a thankyou every now and again. so when you disrespect a traffic officer by speeding by and you don't even tap your brakes and then make him chase you down and then if your really to stupid to realize your in the wrong you start out with a smart mouth, yes you do raise your chance of getting a ticket. some just enjoy or are told do your job , WELL, so your gonna get one anyway but you might be lucky and get some speed knocked off or whatever,.............. let me stop, i don't have that headach anymore, traded it for one with 18 wheels and 9000 gal's of gas sloshing down the road. and that's whole other story..........

 

What do you think about this, do you think it will work?

http://www.radardetectorexperts.com/

 

I'm sorry that Gatafast1 has made the rest of the law enforcement on this site look bad.Any Police Officer who writes an attitude ticket has failed in his duties. Admittedly it is a tough thing not to do.

Most Traffic Officers, ie, Highway Patrol, Motors, etc. who work nothing but traffic, will normally decide if the violation warrants a ticket or warning prior to the contact. That decision is based on the traffic conditions, weather, roadway conditions, etc. And if that Officer's supervisor is doing his or her job, that Officer has been assigned to work that area based on the number of accidents at that location or stretch of highway. Again I state, most professional law enforcement officers do not write attitude tickets. A citation is used as a deterent for traffic violations, if a warning will do the trick and get someones attention. Great. If not maybe the increase in insurance premiums will.

I use to write alot of warnings for child restraint devices not being used for children until I had to watch as a 2 year old boy died at an accident scene because he wasn't in a car seat.

I used to write alot of warnings for speed untill I had to investigate a rollover involving a single vehicle doing over 95 mph. The driver's girlfriend died at the scene. I spent a week on the phone trying to explain to the family why the daughter died, and what would have prevented it.

If you choose to use a radar detector, that is your choice. It only displays to the Officer and the Judge that you are a habitual speeder and should not be given a break. Although, I have never written a citation just because a radar detector was in the vehicle.

Sorry for the long post, I just wanted to set the record straight.

 

Do a search, we went over this a couple of weeks ago. Jammers suck for the most part, but pawn put up a site for a build it yourself jammer that might work. Go fish!

 

Not a Habitual speeder but I am tired of people making blanket assumptions. I have one Speeding ticket in about 10 years and it has been longer than that since I was in any type of accident. From my perspective that makes me either a hell of a lot luckier or a hell of a lot better that the average ( or both ).

To many a radar detector is the same as the guage pod or the CD changer, or the Drag radials they bought. Sometimes they are bought just to be cool, sometimes the driver actually knows how to use them but only uses them on occiasion and often when purchased after decent research and used for the right reason can be very helpful on a frequent basis. It all depends on what your expectations and intents are.

Anyone who thinks that being a ***** doesnt make everyone treat you worse is dreaming, no matter the training or skills. If you are a ***** to a waiter, or a cop or a coworker they all treat you diiferently because of it.

Pull over quickly and safely, roll window down, keep both hands on the wheel, yes sir, know where the ins card is etc etc all help...

Doug

 

Thanks Silver_2000,

I really shouldn't have used "habitual speeders". Your right in that alot of drivers use the Radar Detector as just another accessory to be utilized as needed. And I know that having a detector can be useful in other ways other than just avoiding a speeding ticket. Several people have told me they just like it to help keep them awake and alert on long trips.

Sorry for the blanket assumption. Thirty lashes for me at the stake.

Correct in the statement regarding waiters. I really avoid pi**ing them off!

 

Doug, Doug, Doug you used the word "*****" twice in your post! I might have to turn you over to the moderator or sumthing.......