Brandon, I never claimed this blower to be something that's never been seen before. The rear inlet Eaton M112 is an old protoytpe design. However, while the blower we are using is similar to that one, it is not the same. The blower in our kit is rear inlet MP112 Magnacharger. This blower is based off the rear inlet M112 but has been improved over the original Eaton design to increase it's performance. As for the rear inlet not being used on the Lightning, I'd guess it was a matter of cost. The current upper intake design most likey cost WAY less to design and manufacture than trying to squeeze a rear inlet on. Since the actual rear inlet Eaton never saw production, a new blower case had to be made for the Lightning anyway, so it didn't cost any more to make the top inlet case and bolt the simple top inlet intake to it. It cost tens of thousands of dollars to have the intake used in the kit we are selling made, to be able to use a rear inlet design. However the performance should more than justify the cost.

 

hey sal,
what ET reduction do you expect from the new S/C on a fully modded engine? 2-3 tenths? also, could you use your 4# pulley plus the smallest of the three upper pulleys that comes with the new S/C without getting a new belt?

thanks
joe

p.s.
still waiting for a response from that email i sent you on the 6th

 

Joe-

FYI-

I sent you two e-mails, however, both were sent back with the following message;

"This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:

HEIALMBOS.MHRIH

<j15big@mail.smateo1.sfba.home.com>

Please reply to Postmaster@mail.smateo1.sfba.home.com
if you feel this message to be in error."

Maybe the same thing happened to Sal???

Dave

 

Hi Sal,

Will the new charger be ok to bolt on with no other mods? Or are we going to have to have a custom chip burned also for the new charger? It seems that the horsepower increase from the new charger will take the place of quite a few of the other mods? And them some?
Oscar

 

In my personal opinion, any one who is going to spend the money on the rear inlet M112, should also spend the extra money on haveing the bottom end being hardened. Think about what happenes when you start to push alot of boost out of the stock one; you blow a rod or three. Now, not knowing off the top of my head how much power is being made in the high boost motors that have blown rods; a truck with simple bolt ons and the new S/C could/should be makeing about the same kind of power.

It will only be a matter of time now untill we find out... I sure would like to know.

 

D, yea someone else was having the same probelm. @home changes my email adress, but my settings were still the same, so whenever i sent and email, and someone tried to reply, it email would go to @home.com instead of the new one which is @attbi.com i fixed the problem earlier today. thanks for the heads up.

btw
sal, if your trying to reply to my email, my adress is J15BIG@attbi.com

thanks

 

This S/C sounds pretty weak to me. Gains of 45-50 HP on a 5.4L...what the hell is that??? Don't the Magnacharger and Procharger superchargers have higher gains than this??

 

thats additional hp over the std blower

 

If you had read the entire post, you would know it adds 40-50HP on top of the factory S/C.

 

Sal - I am trying to understand the logic behind your statement that the production Lightning blower is only 91 cubic inches. Both the Magnason and Eaton blowers use the same Eaton rotors. The displacement of the blower is determined by the rotors, not the housing that the rotors are installed in. Using your logic, a 5.4L engine's displacement would vary depending upon the intake and exhaust components installed on the engine. If I understand what you are trying to say here, a 5.4L with 2V heads would have a lower displacement than a 5.4L engine with 4V heads. That is simply impossible. The engines displacement is dependent upon the bore and stroke of the cylinder, not on any particular intake or exhaust components. The same is true for a positive displacement supercharger. The volume of air displaced by the rotors is 112 cubic inches in either the Ford M112 blower or MP112 as they both use the same rotors. It has nothing to do with the shape or efficiency of the housing surrounding those rotors.

I seriously doubt the claims that the new Magnuson blower will be able to produce horsepower increases in 40-50 horsepower range. Once the prototype is built and tested, that question will be answered. Until that time, I think it is a little premature to suggst that there will be massive power increases with a blower utilizing the same 112 cubic inch rotors as the factory Lightning supercharger.

 

SHUT UP dammit. I can't take it anymore!

Ok I gonna have to say screw florida with the girl so I can get this blower from you sal. I can't beleive you are doing this to me again. THANKS!

We'll talk soon!

 

Where did this come from? I don't see any mention of 3 extra upper pullies is any of the previous posts.

 

Look at sals first post, if you can see that you need glasses brother!

 

Actually, the rear entry blower was not used on the production truck because this forces the blower forward on the engine, blocking access to the alternator for service. This would require that the blower be removed from the engine to service the alternator, something Ford would not do on a production vehicle. Ford retooled the blower case for a top entry and actually improved air flow due to less bends in the intake tract compared to the prototype rear-entry design. How this new blower is going to improve on this is conjecture at this point pending installation and testing on a vehicle.

 

Hummm DWRacing makes 2 post in this topic which are his only 2 posts and looks like hes trying to start something by saying Sals claims arent ligit. Hummm Smells like a Troll what do you guys think??
Vin