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Old Nov 12, 2001 | 12:06 AM
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roush stage 3 f-150 vs. Lightning

Dunno much about the roush stage 3 f150 but my dealer says they are goin to start selling them in 02. Anybody have info on them or anything?
 
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Old Nov 12, 2001 | 08:06 AM
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http://www.roushperf.com/f150home.htm

When I bought my 99 they had a Roush truck and a HD F150 sitting next to the Ls. I seriously thought about the Roush truck, for about 10 seconds. They are mice looking trucks.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2001 | 09:36 AM
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Show and no go. Driven Roush trucks before. Handle well, look good, sound good. No power.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2001 | 11:19 AM
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Roush Stage-3 also costs hellova lot more then our Lightning last I looked.

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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 01:03 AM
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blulightning I would check out the Roush. The obvious difference between a Roush and the Lighting are the suspension. Check out Truck Trend online, I'm not sure the URL. In 1999 they tested a Roush with the results "outhandled the BMW M3". In reality if you live in a section of the country with a lot of curves in the road you can have a lot more fun. Roush hasn't been doing engine mods except in special cases thus unless you handle the performance your stock. Bottom line Stage 3 will give you handling and performance. Lighting just doesn't have the handling. I drove two before I decided to buy my Roush. Get the Supercab the F/R weight ratio is best on that model. I'm glad to see Roush is finally going to make advances in engine performace.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 01:24 AM
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...outhandled the BMW...
Been there...done that...

(But it wasn't a Roush - just a red truck)





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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 01:31 AM
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can you get roush suspension on our L's??? If so, anyone know how much?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 01:43 AM
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Originally posted by motoxracer21
can you get roush suspension on our L's??? If so, anyone know how much?
I did a write-up on the Roush/So-Cal and Hotchkis suspensions last year on NLOC but the thread is gone now. As far as I remember the Roush suspension was $1200 to $1600 (someone correct me if the numbers are wrong). The difference in price was the cost of tuned shocks. A good setup but as expected, for every advantage it had, there was a disadvantage when compared to the other two.

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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 01:52 AM
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damn i wish the write-up was still there, would have loved to read it...does the roush suspension really make it handle "better than an m3"??? Overall which was better, roush or hotchkis?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 02:21 AM
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Originally posted by motoxracer21
damn i wish the write-up was still there, would have loved to read it...does the roush suspension really make it handle "better than an m3"??? Overall which was better, roush or hotchkis?
My write-up was only a small portion. Many other road racers with much more experience contributed to the thread and lots of issues were discussed from everyday driving and load carrying capacity to driveline angles problems from excessive drop, bump steer and custom alignment specs.

Does it handle better than an M3? Depends more on the driver and other items.

Overall, what was better? All excelled in specific areas and addressed problems differently, so it's can't be answered. It's similar to buying a chip. Consider this: Most of the folks that buy a specific chip will praise that chip because they spent their own money on it. How many times have you read "I just got the ABC or CBS or NBC or "the other guy never mentioned" chip and it sucks! Generally they say it "rocks!" I don't know why the work "rocks" is used but i guess "pebbles" or "boulders" doesn't sound appealing.

The suspension kits have similar goals but different personalities. If you're planning on towing or putting weight in the rear, one is better than the other. If you don't like a stiff ride, one is better than the other. One is a complete "package," another isn't but at a cost. The list goes on. One may outhandle another on a road course, but be to stiff on the street...

If all you want are looks, save $1000+, open a JC Whitney catalog and buy shackles for $39. So, you have to decide what you want.

Spike
 
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 02:25 AM
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how easy are drop shackles to install?
Which one handled better on a road course but was too stiff for the street?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 02:43 AM
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Originally posted by motoxracer21
how easy are drop shackles to install?
Which one handled better on a road course but was too stiff for the street?
Difficult to answer again. Sorry! One guy in your area spent hours trying to install them. Others can do it buzzed on a few beers (not recommended) and be done in 15 minutes.

Regarding the road course comparison, hopefully we'll know the true answer later this year when one of the lurkers (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE) joins us at a track.

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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 09:34 AM
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I have a KART background, and I always liked track raceing better than mindless quarter-mile glory. It takes skill and tact to read and digest a track.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 09:38 AM
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I will be able to tell everyone here Monday.Am putting a roots style on a rough truck now for a dealer in my area.Will have the intercooler and all the goodies! Will use my Vericom computer for the testing to see how it stands next to use.Stan
 
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 09:52 AM
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Sixpipes has the roush suspension on his 99 and loves it...
Having said that in autocross the tires and driver are more important since we have run side by side a number of times.

But with equal tires and similar driving decisions I am sure the suspension would help

Doug
 
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