Horsepower difference?
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Horsepower difference?
Was just wondering if there were any horsepower differences between the years of 99 and 04. Ive been looking at them here lately and considering buying one when I graduate college. Thanks for the insight.
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99-00 360hp 440tq
01-04 380hp 440tq
main difference on the 01-04 was 90mm MAF vs 80, 3.73:1 gears vs 3.55:1, there are a lot of little differances but those are the main ones.
get the 03-04 due to 8 threads for the spark plug vs 4 thread on previous years
others please add more!!!
01-04 380hp 440tq
main difference on the 01-04 was 90mm MAF vs 80, 3.73:1 gears vs 3.55:1, there are a lot of little differances but those are the main ones.
get the 03-04 due to 8 threads for the spark plug vs 4 thread on previous years
others please add more!!!
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99-00 360hp 440tq
01-04 380hp 440tq
main difference on the 01-04 was 90mm MAF vs 80, 3.73:1 gears vs 3.55:1, there are a lot of little differances but those are the main ones.
get the 03-04 due to 8 threads for the spark plug vs 4 thread on previous years
others please add more!!!
01-04 380hp 440tq
main difference on the 01-04 was 90mm MAF vs 80, 3.73:1 gears vs 3.55:1, there are a lot of little differances but those are the main ones.
get the 03-04 due to 8 threads for the spark plug vs 4 thread on previous years
others please add more!!!
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Ok good deal.
What are some other differences?
Like I said Im looking to buy one as a graduation/birthday gift to myself, here in May. I called the insurance company today and got a quote and it is very do-able. Im very excited and hope things work out!
What are some other differences?
Like I said Im looking to buy one as a graduation/birthday gift to myself, here in May. I called the insurance company today and got a quote and it is very do-able. Im very excited and hope things work out!
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Second generation (1999-2004)
In 1999, after a five-year hiatus, Ford SVT unveiled the Second Generation Ford Lightning. Powered by a modular SOHC 2-valve 5.4 L Triton, the new engine was capable of producing 360 horsepower (270 kW) and 440 ft·lbf (600 N·m) of torque. This was primarily due to the inclusion of an Eaton supercharger that was factory installed. Behind the engine sat the 4R100 automatic transmission which connected to a rear end housing 3.55:1 rear gears. The Lightning featured specialized 18" wheels mounted with Goodyear Eagle F1 295/45ZR-18 tires. The Lightning's suspension system, which lowers the truck half an inch in front and two inches in the rear was also modified from the standard F-150. The suspension was largely unchanged for the 2001 Model. It retained the front short-and long-arm system with coil springs and a 31 mm solid stabilizer bar along with the rear solid axle with five-leaf springs and a 23 mm solid stabilizer bar. Monroe shocks were used from 1999-2001 then replaced with Bilstein shocks from 2002-2004.
In the 2001 Model Year, the engine design was slightly altered to produce 380 horsepower (280 kW) @ 4,750 rpm and 450 ft·lbf (610 N·m) of torque @ 3,250 rpm. Also, the previously leaky intercooler was redesigned. This problem was addressed as a recall in earlier models. Another engine revision came in the 2003 Model Year when a weakness in the heads, the lack of sufficient threads for spark plugs, was addressed and fixed, although "piston slap" a mild knocking noise while the engine is cold was still imminent. At the other end of the drivetrain, the final drive ratio was shortened to 3.73:1 in 2001. Also, in 2001 the drive shaft was increased in size to a 4.5-inch (110 mm) aluminum unit, from the previous 3.5-inch (89 mm) steel unit. The specially developed 295/45ZR-18 Goodyear Eagle F1-GS unidirectional tires were upgraded utilizing a new generation F1 GS rubber compound; improving the tires' gripping capability. With these engine and drivetrain revisions, Car and Driver magazine drove a lightning from zero to 60 mph (97 km/h) in 5.2 seconds. For 2003, the Lightning's cargo capacity was raised from 800 lb (360 kg). to 1,350 lb (610 kg).
The second generation Lightning was initially offered in just Bright Red, Black, and White paint colors. The 2000 Model Year brought the addition of the Silver color to the lineup. In 2002, True Blue, a very dark blue, was offered, but replaced with a lighter Sonic Blue in 2003. The 2003 Model Year also saw the introduction of the Dark Shadow Grey color.
In 1999, after a five-year hiatus, Ford SVT unveiled the Second Generation Ford Lightning. Powered by a modular SOHC 2-valve 5.4 L Triton, the new engine was capable of producing 360 horsepower (270 kW) and 440 ft·lbf (600 N·m) of torque. This was primarily due to the inclusion of an Eaton supercharger that was factory installed. Behind the engine sat the 4R100 automatic transmission which connected to a rear end housing 3.55:1 rear gears. The Lightning featured specialized 18" wheels mounted with Goodyear Eagle F1 295/45ZR-18 tires. The Lightning's suspension system, which lowers the truck half an inch in front and two inches in the rear was also modified from the standard F-150. The suspension was largely unchanged for the 2001 Model. It retained the front short-and long-arm system with coil springs and a 31 mm solid stabilizer bar along with the rear solid axle with five-leaf springs and a 23 mm solid stabilizer bar. Monroe shocks were used from 1999-2001 then replaced with Bilstein shocks from 2002-2004.
In the 2001 Model Year, the engine design was slightly altered to produce 380 horsepower (280 kW) @ 4,750 rpm and 450 ft·lbf (610 N·m) of torque @ 3,250 rpm. Also, the previously leaky intercooler was redesigned. This problem was addressed as a recall in earlier models. Another engine revision came in the 2003 Model Year when a weakness in the heads, the lack of sufficient threads for spark plugs, was addressed and fixed, although "piston slap" a mild knocking noise while the engine is cold was still imminent. At the other end of the drivetrain, the final drive ratio was shortened to 3.73:1 in 2001. Also, in 2001 the drive shaft was increased in size to a 4.5-inch (110 mm) aluminum unit, from the previous 3.5-inch (89 mm) steel unit. The specially developed 295/45ZR-18 Goodyear Eagle F1-GS unidirectional tires were upgraded utilizing a new generation F1 GS rubber compound; improving the tires' gripping capability. With these engine and drivetrain revisions, Car and Driver magazine drove a lightning from zero to 60 mph (97 km/h) in 5.2 seconds. For 2003, the Lightning's cargo capacity was raised from 800 lb (360 kg). to 1,350 lb (610 kg).
The second generation Lightning was initially offered in just Bright Red, Black, and White paint colors. The 2000 Model Year brought the addition of the Silver color to the lineup. In 2002, True Blue, a very dark blue, was offered, but replaced with a lighter Sonic Blue in 2003. The 2003 Model Year also saw the introduction of the Dark Shadow Grey color.
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Second generation (1999-2004)
In 1999, after a five-year hiatus, Ford SVT unveiled the Second Generation Ford Lightning. Powered by a modular SOHC 2-valve 5.4 L Triton, the new engine was capable of producing 360 horsepower (270 kW) and 440 ft·lbf (600 N·m) of torque. This was primarily due to the inclusion of an Eaton supercharger that was factory installed. Behind the engine sat the 4R100 automatic transmission which connected to a rear end housing 3.55:1 rear gears. The Lightning featured specialized 18" wheels mounted with Goodyear Eagle F1 295/45ZR-18 tires. The Lightning's suspension system, which lowers the truck half an inch in front and two inches in the rear was also modified from the standard F-150. The suspension was largely unchanged for the 2001 Model. It retained the front short-and long-arm system with coil springs and a 31 mm solid stabilizer bar along with the rear solid axle with five-leaf springs and a 23 mm solid stabilizer bar. Monroe shocks were used from 1999-2001 then replaced with Bilstein shocks from 2002-2004.
In the 2001 Model Year, the engine design was slightly altered to produce 380 horsepower (280 kW) @ 4,750 rpm and 450 ft·lbf (610 N·m) of torque @ 3,250 rpm. Also, the previously leaky intercooler was redesigned. This problem was addressed as a recall in earlier models. Another engine revision came in the 2003 Model Year when a weakness in the heads, the lack of sufficient threads for spark plugs, was addressed and fixed, although "piston slap" a mild knocking noise while the engine is cold was still imminent. At the other end of the drivetrain, the final drive ratio was shortened to 3.73:1 in 2001. Also, in 2001 the drive shaft was increased in size to a 4.5-inch (110 mm) aluminum unit, from the previous 3.5-inch (89 mm) steel unit. The specially developed 295/45ZR-18 Goodyear Eagle F1-GS unidirectional tires were upgraded utilizing a new generation F1 GS rubber compound; improving the tires' gripping capability. With these engine and drivetrain revisions, Car and Driver magazine drove a lightning from zero to 60 mph (97 km/h) in 5.2 seconds. For 2003, the Lightning's cargo capacity was raised from 800 lb (360 kg). to 1,350 lb (610 kg).
The second generation Lightning was initially offered in just Bright Red, Black, and White paint colors. The 2000 Model Year brought the addition of the Silver color to the lineup. In 2002, True Blue, a very dark blue, was offered, but replaced with a lighter Sonic Blue in 2003. The 2003 Model Year also saw the introduction of the Dark Shadow Grey color.
In 1999, after a five-year hiatus, Ford SVT unveiled the Second Generation Ford Lightning. Powered by a modular SOHC 2-valve 5.4 L Triton, the new engine was capable of producing 360 horsepower (270 kW) and 440 ft·lbf (600 N·m) of torque. This was primarily due to the inclusion of an Eaton supercharger that was factory installed. Behind the engine sat the 4R100 automatic transmission which connected to a rear end housing 3.55:1 rear gears. The Lightning featured specialized 18" wheels mounted with Goodyear Eagle F1 295/45ZR-18 tires. The Lightning's suspension system, which lowers the truck half an inch in front and two inches in the rear was also modified from the standard F-150. The suspension was largely unchanged for the 2001 Model. It retained the front short-and long-arm system with coil springs and a 31 mm solid stabilizer bar along with the rear solid axle with five-leaf springs and a 23 mm solid stabilizer bar. Monroe shocks were used from 1999-2001 then replaced with Bilstein shocks from 2002-2004.
In the 2001 Model Year, the engine design was slightly altered to produce 380 horsepower (280 kW) @ 4,750 rpm and 450 ft·lbf (610 N·m) of torque @ 3,250 rpm. Also, the previously leaky intercooler was redesigned. This problem was addressed as a recall in earlier models. Another engine revision came in the 2003 Model Year when a weakness in the heads, the lack of sufficient threads for spark plugs, was addressed and fixed, although "piston slap" a mild knocking noise while the engine is cold was still imminent. At the other end of the drivetrain, the final drive ratio was shortened to 3.73:1 in 2001. Also, in 2001 the drive shaft was increased in size to a 4.5-inch (110 mm) aluminum unit, from the previous 3.5-inch (89 mm) steel unit. The specially developed 295/45ZR-18 Goodyear Eagle F1-GS unidirectional tires were upgraded utilizing a new generation F1 GS rubber compound; improving the tires' gripping capability. With these engine and drivetrain revisions, Car and Driver magazine drove a lightning from zero to 60 mph (97 km/h) in 5.2 seconds. For 2003, the Lightning's cargo capacity was raised from 800 lb (360 kg). to 1,350 lb (610 kg).
The second generation Lightning was initially offered in just Bright Red, Black, and White paint colors. The 2000 Model Year brought the addition of the Silver color to the lineup. In 2002, True Blue, a very dark blue, was offered, but replaced with a lighter Sonic Blue in 2003. The 2003 Model Year also saw the introduction of the Dark Shadow Grey color.
And the bit about the spark plugs. I understand that more threads are better, but is it really that big of a deal? I mean obviously they did alright with 4 threads. So was the 4 threads truly a weakness or were the extra 4 threads just for insurance?
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Yep, they were blowing plugs right out of the heads. Its still debated (in my mind anyway) as to weather this was from "loose" plugs, or cylinder pressure, but either way, it seemed to stop with the newer heads.
FWIW, I never liked the looks of the gen 2. I bought mine solely for its performance. However, even nine years later, when I park my truck, I still stare at it all the way through the parking lot! INfact, this morning I was working in the garage, and caught myself drooling at its sexy curves covered by its winter blanket, and its beefy tires and sleek rims sticking out from underneath!
Oh, 2000 model year is hands down superior in all ways to other years.....But I might be a little biased! :-)
FWIW, I never liked the looks of the gen 2. I bought mine solely for its performance. However, even nine years later, when I park my truck, I still stare at it all the way through the parking lot! INfact, this morning I was working in the garage, and caught myself drooling at its sexy curves covered by its winter blanket, and its beefy tires and sleek rims sticking out from underneath!
Oh, 2000 model year is hands down superior in all ways to other years.....But I might be a little biased! :-)
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The only difference that means anything is the heads. But dont let that prevent you from buying a 99-00. I looked for about 6 months to find the perfect one and Got lucky with a low milage 2003. Best vehicle I have ever owned and I have owned quiet a bit for a 31 year old d bag.