i would like to find out how many engines have blown with chips installed. do you guys know anyone with a chip install that has had a blown engine? yes, yes i know there could be other reasons for the damage. i would just like to get some kind of count of how many engines have been damaged with chips in them.

 

Well depending on who you ask the answer could be all of them.

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Speaking as an owner of a 99 n/a 5.4 that had the slap at 24k and lost a cylynder while waiting for new engine,and an owner of a chipped 00L with 24k with many 12,s passes and no leaky ic,or any other problems i have to say your barking up the wrong tree.I don't for a minute beleive theres a connection between chips and any of the motor,ic or tranny problems.I saw no less than three other 5.4 n/a replacements at two dealers when they were replacing thousands of those[unchipped].The ic has questionable welds,coating from the blades flaking off and motor oil on them.This motor oil in the intake is also a problem with an na 5.4. This board has too many Ls with performance upgrades to do any kind of accurate survey on chipped vs unchipped,besides you can find info on any of the common problems whith a search imho.

 

Gotta disagree with ya regarding the tranny problems, ib. The Ford bean counters mandated that SVT build the Lightning with off the shelf parts. They couldn't find a tranny that would handle the torque of the L. motor, so the engineers programmed that 4 cylinder shut down during the 1-2 shift. As soon as you install a chip that overrides the shutdown, you are overstressing the stock clutchpacks. Do a search and you will discover many people on this board who have blown up their stock trannies following chip install. If ya wanna play, ya gotta pay.

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If I am not mistaken, all Ford automatics have the same power cut-out between shifts.

 

I am one person that has tried just about everything out there, and never once had a problem with a chip "blowing" a motor or even a plug for that matter.

Take my truck for example:
I have over 40K on the original motor and trans without any problems...execpt for some tranny slip in OD lately...but thats expected with a truck like mine, and the abuse it has seen on the track, and as a daily driver. I have run PSP,JL,JDM programs on mine, and never had a problem, not once.But yet I have heard of others that DID have problems. But those are RUMORS...so who knows.
Hope this helps in some way

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I can say that the trannies are not built to handle the power that we give them at the SHIFTING points. Any other time this trans can handle the power that we put out. I think it was Andy wittle that told me about the guy he knows who did all the testing on the first test lightning back in 98. yes 98. He said that the guy blew out several tannies on the truck because of the fact that the truck cannot handle the huge amounts of power on the shifts. thats why ford made them shut down on the shifts. Now believe what you want but this sounded awfully true to me when I heard, and its makes sense to me.

I have had my trans replaced once and I'm sure it won't be the last one. The key is to find a trans that we can use that can take all the abuse we put threw it. I personally would like to install a C6 trans in my truck. If its possible to do it, don't worry I'll be there to get one and let you guys know how it works out. Maybe even a built up AODE trans would work too! I know the times comming that it will need to be beefed up!

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I agree w/ RT. So far from driving mine the tranny feels perfectly fine, except during the shifts. If Ford programmed 4cyl shutdown during shifts it was for a reason. They didn't build the tranny strong enough to take it, and they were to cheap and wanted the quick fix for it.

 

We all know our trans was originally designed for the Diesel which makes alot more torque than the L. This is a Banks test from '97 and they are putting alot more TQ thru the trans than we will. We do put more stress on the trans because of rpms. By the way 5.4 to 60 for a diesel is awesome too.

 

No engine problems but needed a new transmission at 8000 miles with a chip in use

 

LoL, that was from 40-60, not 0-60

BfB

 

Well I can tell you from experience that the chip can blow or at least burn motors.No electode left on 5 spark plugs 6 tuliped intake valves!!!! Cause: a chip burner who would not LISTEN to me,burned it for drag racing, NOT road racing,8 miles into the course at 150 the engine just died!!Stan
Still pissed about it!!

 

I am sure that i have read that the reason for the tranny shut down of four cylynders was for emissions and not because they could not handle the power.My tranny shifts hard all the time and most tranny mechanics will tell you that the harder it shifts the longer it will last and that soft shifts and cylynder shut down making the tranny shift slow are a bad thing. So who is to say that if your tranny breaks,that a chip caused it.I don,t think ford would have special color coded stickers on are trannys with a specific order to the techs to not open them up but rather send the whole tranny back if they thought they were bullit proof.imho

 

Thought our L's were suppose to be performance vehicle, let em perform, not 4 cylinder shifts,and that is a FACT!!!Put a tranny in em that will handle the troque and make the problems go away,between trannies and intercooler I think ford has hired an additional help to fix the stuff,rather than come up with a proper tranny and intercooler FIX.So run em till they die, they have to stand behind the product chipped or not.I wouldnn't have one without a chip,JMO.
J MAN

 

Soft shifts abuse soft parts (clutch packs) and hard shifts abuse hard parts (everything else). If you're reburning for hard shifts you're saving clutch packs at the expense of every other hard part.